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Ellen G 
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(9/14/00 2:06:04 pm)
please Please PLEASE
In a fit of pique once, as a mom with two little girls with a cookie sheet full of about 3,000 crayons, bickering over who got to use the pink one, I snapped, gabbed the crayons and threw them all up in the air. There are still little wax confetti marks all over the ceiling. Nobody has the heart to paint over them. Ah, memories.... Ahem. Anyway, I am about at that point right now. I understand free speech, opinions, knowledge v. ignorance, but for crying out loud, people are nicer to strangers on the street than they are in our little "community". Is there ANY reason we can't just read the opinions, think to ourselves, "Wow, that person is an idiot" and either (1) let it go or (2) throw your own crayons at the ceiling? It is a great tension reliever. I really like this place, but it is getting to be less fun to come here, and I am more fearful each time I post.

We all have experiences, feelings, opinions, and the fact that we are writing them in this forum, to me, is no different than saying it to someone's face. I'm sorry I brought anything up, but I have nothing to throw except a few pleas for courtesy, tolerance, and realization that we don't all come from the same background. Sorry I exploded. My kids eventually forgave me, by the way. Bye.

Bobbie 
Registered User
(9/14/00 2:10:30 pm)
irate Mom stuff
Your story reminds me of the time I went to put bread and butter pickles on the toasted cheese sandwich my daughters had just burned for me, only to discover that the two pound jar of pickles opened the day before contained nothing but pickle juice! I threw the sandwich to the dogs and stomped out of the house. Then I drove to Barnes and Noble and was consoled by finding "The Soloist" had just been released.

(I agree with you on the real subject, too!)

DWThomas
Registered User
(9/14/00 2:52:05 pm)
Anarchy in Action
(Hey -- another CC motto!)

Your point is well taken, but actually, in spite of it all, this group is pretty civil by Internet standards (or lack thereof). I regularly prowl thru several photography-related Usenet groups, as well as some music-related ones. The steam pressure can get pretty high. Of course there are people who delight in seeing what they can provoke, oft referred to as "trolls." And they usually manage to hook someone who has to have the last word no matter how many exchanges it takes.

We won't even discuss what transpires on some of the alt.x.y.z Usenet groups.

Mayhaps we should rejoice that we have opinions, some even held passionately -- so much of the mainstream public appears to be drifting into " uh -- yeah, whatever."

Dave

(Throwing crayons -- why didn't I think of that?! :rollin )

Edited by: DWThomas Edited by: 9/14/00 2:52:05 pm

Ellen G 
Registered User
(9/14/00 3:27:15 pm)
Good cello photos
Because you are not a mom. Although you do bake better bread than I do. The aroma wafted through one of your posts on the CBN board. I gained 7 pounds while I read.

Anyway, back to cellos. There is a picture on the front of the Heifetz/Rubinstein/Feuermann "Archduke" CD I have, and I've been looking at it on my desk all day. I love that photo. I don't collect photos -- despite DS's attempts to subliminally get to me -- and there may well be a book out there I WILL get one of these days -- but I was wondering what some other photos of cellists are that really capture the essence of the moment. Do you know this one, the one with Feuermann and the cigarette dangling as he plays?

DWThomas
Registered User
(9/14/00 4:08:21 pm)
Re: Good cello photos
I know I've seen that one, but don't own it.

Hmmm -- maybe you can twist an arm or two to get video captures from the WCC movies?!

The photo groups I've been lurking on are aimed at taking pictures, film and film processing, and equipment (talk about expensive obsessions!). Every now and again someone posts a link to their lastest exciting work, but so far it's been far away exotic landscapes or some magnified comparison of Fuji xyz vs Kodak abc for grain size.
Alas, about my only cello photo is on my web page -- a forlorn plywood monster held upright by a wall and speaker cabinet -- no drama.

I have a CD of pieces by Auguste Franchomme played by Roel Deltiens and a few cohorts that has an interesting painting reproduced on the front. It's a tall woman in a dramatic pose with cello (family rated too).

I'll keep my eyes open for some -- but no, I can't afford any more obsessions!

Dave

Who should bake tonight but feels a sloth attack coming on.

TerryM 
Registered User
(9/14/00 7:18:54 pm)
Re: CD Cover Photo
The woman on the cover of the Roel Dieltiens-Franchomme CD is the famous Portugese cellist Guilhermina Suggia. She was a student of Casals and although 12 years his junior, she later became his "partner" both cellistically and in life. They had a serious falling-out and the relationship ended abruptly. She was reportedly a talented and temperamental cellist.

Terry

BA
Registered User
(9/14/00 9:16:13 pm)
dangling cigarettes
This is one of my all time favorite photos, and has been with me for almost a decade already- however for that cover they took out the background, which was a living room- either Heifetz's or Rubinstein's I assume.

Feuermann playing with that cigarette dangling from his mouth makes quite a statement as well- I tried to imitate it many times and found that he must have had supremely relaxed/detached facial muscles while playing. I found it incredibly hard to keep my face still enogh to pull it off. In fact it's pretty hard even with an unlit cigarette.

And as to that recording- there are not words...

As to being nice...if it makes you feel any better, I'm not that nice to strangers on the street either! (Too many years in NY) Have you sen the photo of Heifetz and Feuermann recording the Brahms Double? For an original of that, one could certainly loosen my wallet...David?

sarah schenkman
Registered User
(9/15/00 12:28:49 pm)
cd photo
Terry M. - Your description of Guilhermina Suggia is interesting - you can use almost that exact same description for Madelyn Foley.

G M Stucka
Registered User
(9/15/00 3:07:37 pm)
Re: dangling cigarettes
Ebay has been a wonderful source for me of photographs. I have purchased a 1941 Victor "Record Review" magazine that includes 2 different photos from the Heifetz/Feuermann Brahms sessions. I also recently purchased an 8X10 publicity still of Feuermann, issued by RCA Victor, that I'd never seen before---shows Feuermann in a very relaxed pose on a stool with his cello----I plan to frame this with an autographed program that I bought from David; the program is from Feuermann's LAST concert (Thor Johnson conducting the Philadelphia Orchestra---Dvorak Concerto---May 7, 1942---Hill Auditorium---Ann Arbor, Michigan)

BA
Registered User
(9/19/00 3:17:57 am)
Memorabilia chat for Feuermann geeks
Wow- didn't realize there were other photos from the Brahms Double. Did you know they recorded that with no prior rehearsal with the orchestra? They didn't even know what they would be recording or with whom until they got to the studio.

So it was you who bought that publicity picture! I have a color xerox of that picture framed (courtesy of Dave Hermann) and didn't feel like parting with more money for the original at the moment.

The program you have sounds fascinating - the only one I have is from a recital in Tucson, AZ - no date. With Wolfgang Rebner at the piano. Beethoven Op69, Stravinsky Suite, Grieg sonata, Bloch Prayer, Granados Spanish Dance and Popper Spinnlied. Autographed by both. Must chase down the date someday.

Is Biddulph gonna do another CD? Regards

G M Stucka
Registered User
(9/19/00 9:43:15 am)
to BA
Please write me at: slidemaster1@aol.com I'd like to have a private corespondence with you, if you'd wish.


          please Please PLEASE-Ellen G  -(10)-9/14/00 2:06:04 pm  
               Anarchy in Action-DWThomas 9/14/00 2:52:05 pm  
                    Good cello photos-Ellen G  9/14/00 3:27:15 pm  
                         dangling cigarettes-BA 9/14/00 9:16:13 pm  
                              Re: dangling cigarettes-G M Stucka 9/15/00 3:07:37 pm  
                                   Memorabilia chat for Feuermann geeks-BA 9/19/00 3:17:57 am  
                                        to BA-G M Stucka 9/19/00 9:43:15 am  
                         Re: Good cello photos-DWThomas 9/14/00 4:08:21 pm  
                              Re: CD Cover Photo-TerryM  9/14/00 7:18:54 pm  
                                   cd photo-sarah schenkman 9/15/00 12:28:49 pm  
               irate Mom stuff-Bobbie  9/14/00 2:10:30 pm  
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