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Ellen G 
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(9/7/00 6:44:39 am)
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What do you do when...
There was a post on the other board asking what you should do when your C string goes out of tune and you really can't stop to tune it. It made me think that many of you have run into or had experiences that are unusual, and most of us won't ever give a thought to till it happens some day. And of course we'll be stuck and come running back here after the fact asking how to handle the situation next time. Which of course won't happen because next time something ELSE will go wrong.

So... what sorts of things can go wrong, and what is the best way to handle them? Broken strings, parts falling off your cello, chair collapsing, what?

y13
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(9/8/00 2:16:22 am)
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notes falling off the staff, forgetting one's cue to start playing, getting a giggling fit in the middle of Beethoven's 6th (while on stage), causing physical damage to fellow players with one's bow....

not all of the cellists problems are "force major". Most of my little mishaps are due to pure lack of concentration. At least when your string pops or goes out of tune you can say that it wasn't your own fault..

Yael

Daniel Ortbals 
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(9/11/00 1:27:46 pm)
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Not an answer, but it was funny anyway...
Last year I Musici di Montreal came here, playing Tchaikovsky and Haydn. Yuli Turovsky's endpin (which is HUGE btw) slipped during the 3rd movement of Haydn, so he made them redo it. Then, during the Tchaikovsky, peoples' music blew off stands, a violinist's string either broke or slipped out of tune, and she ran offstage to fix it. At the beginning of one of the movements one of the violinists was standing at the wrong stand and had to ease her way over to the right one... Anyway, it was one thing after another. Bad luck night I guess.

PatWhite
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(9/11/00 2:08:39 pm)
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I don't think there is really a way to prepare ahead of time for an accident...one horrible one that happened to a stand partner many years ago was that the player in front her turned around to pass back some information. As she leaned forward to get the information, her bow leaned with her. As he leaned back to give her the information, his bow likewise leaned with him. The bows "tapped" in mid-air and my stand partner's bow cracked apart. It was a very nice bow, and it was insured, but she was devastated. Forewarned is forearmed, and I always try to keep my bow out of danger since witnessing that freak accident.

Most other mis-haps are just things that must be dealt with as they arise.

However, confidential to Y13, I am still trying to think of when I have ever seen "music fall of the staff..." Reminds me of a Salvador Dali painting.....notes dripping off of staves!

Cheers!
Pat White

Ellen G 
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(9/11/00 3:09:14 pm)
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Etiquette
OK, some things are bizarre. But for example, a string breaks in the middle of the third movement of a symphony. What is proper etiquette? GMS has broken C strings in the past, and in that instance you can't play the notes on another string. Do you play what you can and stay put till the end of the piece? Do you exit after the third movement and enter (gasp) while the 4th is being played sporting a new string? I never really thought about it before.

They sound like silly questions, but these are things that have come up on occasion and it would be sort of helpful if those of you who know the protocol would share with some of us who obviously don't. Remember that cute little boy who wrote and asked what happens when you have to go to the bathroom in the middle of a performance? You gave nice, helpful answers to him.

Like golf, while there aren't rules for some things, there is etiquette. And the only way to learn it is from someone more experienced who is willing to share to keep the rest of us from making a faux pas.

Steve Drake
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(9/11/00 3:15:47 pm)
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OK, I've got one. Just last night, I was playing in a gala season opening concert, with Charlotte Church as the soloist, but the orchestra had several feaure overtures. We were playing the West Side Overture, by Bernstein, and in the jazzy part near the end, I managed to rip my c string off the bridge with a particularly furious pluck. I made it through the rest of the piece ok, as the rest of my strings didn't seem to go too much out of tune, and I was able to restring the thing before the next piece.

The best advice is to not panic! If your string breaks, walk off stage and get a new one at the best opportunity to do this. If worse things happen, well, deal with it. I got stung by a yellow jacket wasp on the chin once in a performance, but somehow managed to finish the performance, despite the feeling that my head had exploded and I was about to die.

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PatWhite
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(9/11/00 6:38:42 pm)
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Re: Etiquette
Strangely enough, I have never broken a string in performance! Of course, I have seen it happen. People who have broken strings tend to be the ones who subsequently make it a habit to bring a spare set out with them. So, that would be one answer -- to always have a spare with you. Another possibility is that if you do break a string during an orchestra concert, someone else in the section may have a spare on stage. You should change it as quietly as possible and tune silently without attracting any untoward attention. That is, if you are safely nestled in the midst of the section. If you are principal, the assistant principal should shoot his cello over to you so that you may keep going and the assistant should assist you in changing the string. I don't think you should exit the stage (please anyone else correct me) unless you really need to. I think if worse comes to worse, you can just 'fake' playing whenever notes are supposed to be played on the broken string. The concert becomes a lost cause for you, but your problem should not disrupt the concert.

y13
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(9/13/00 10:02:45 am)
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Re: What do you do when...
you give me too much credit. With all due respect to Dali, and all other great artists, sometimes art is no more than a translation error,. - what I meant was, of course, scores - notes, music sheet, whatever they call them in your part of the world.
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          New What do you do when...-Ellen G  -(7)-9/7/00 6:44:39 am  
               New Re: What do you do when...-Steve Drake 9/11/00 3:15:47 pm  
               New Not an answer, but it was funny anyway...-Daniel Ortbals  9/11/00 1:27:46 pm  
               New Re: What do you do when...-y13 9/8/00 2:16:22 am  
                    New Re: What do you do when...-PatWhite 9/11/00 2:08:39 pm  
                         New Re: What do you do when...-y13 9/13/00 10:02:45 am  
                         New Etiquette-Ellen G  9/11/00 3:09:14 pm  
                              New Re: Etiquette-PatWhite 9/11/00 6:38:42 pm  
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