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Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(9/6/00 3:39:45 pm)
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Zuill Baliey
For all you Zuill Bailey fans...he has a new website at http://pub1.ezboard.com/www.zuillbailey.com

Pretty cool site, read the review he got when he subbed for Heinrich Schiff!


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String4tetCellist
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(9/7/00 4:20:34 pm)
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I very much enjoyed Mr. Bailey's web site (especially the pictures :b )...

BA
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(9/8/00 3:04:51 am)
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Yes, that's certainly what I look for in a cellist...as if we needed further proof that classical music was doomed. Anyone remember Danny Gaisford?

Actually Zuill's Chicago review was generally positive and also very amusing - if I were less consumed by sloth I would copy it here. Paul? In a similar vein has anyone ever seen that legenday review of Zuckerman from a small Nevada paper where the reviewer was obviously overcome by lust and wrote things along the lines of "What a pity that he did not turn his back to the audience more, so that we could view his well proportioned rear"..etc. I heard the CD of that Scandanavian vioinist/Playboy model Linda Brava. It was really not good. (not a shock I guess). And let's not forget Nina Kotova. Still waiting for "Brittany Spears- The Classical Album". I miss the old ugly guys who PLAYED beautifully...

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(9/8/00 5:02:19 pm)
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BA,

I do remember Danny Gaisford. He won the concerto competition when Shostakovich #2 was the concerto. I'm nost sure I see the connection.

The thing is, Zuill IS a great player (IMHO). Perhaps you are disturbed by the way they speak of his "good looks"? I don't know. I'll admit, he does have that. But if I were to listen to his performances without any visual bias, I'd still think he's a great player.

I wouldn't write him off with Brava, Kotova, etc.


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DWThomas
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(9/8/00 10:40:00 pm)
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I know it's silly, but ya know what I like?

When I went to that site, right at the top of my browser it said "Zuill Bailey - Cellist."

I do a lot of websurfing during my lunch hour. I can't tell you how many times I've gone back to catalog new book marks after a week or two of cruising cyberspace to find maybe 20 to 30% of them show up as "(home)," or "left frame" or "index," or "{add title here}." Ya gotta log in and call 'em up again to find out what the heck they are. His says "Zuill Bailey - Cellist."

He tells us right up front. If his cello playing lives up to his web interface, he's gotta be good. :rollin

Dave

BA
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(9/9/00 2:59:24 am)
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Well, this is where we simply have different opinions. While I do find Zuill has a good overall facility, his playing at the time I knew it was both mannered and musically immature, mainly concerned with 'showmanship'. I mentioned Danny, because I find their style, strength and weaknesses similar. But, to be fair, I haven't heard Zuill in many years-perhaps he has changed. The reviewer's comments lead me to believe they have not, but I'm only guessing. BTW I do like Zuill as a person. And I am always disturbed when reviewers focus on a players looks- we expect that from the more superficial members of the audience, but now it comes from reviewers and managers. Bottom line is this- Zuill is a decent player, but he doesn't have anything that 20 other guys I know don't also have- some more so. This is the way of the world alas.

Enjoy that weather. in the 100 degree plus days we've been having I almost feel like going back there. Unfortunately they it would pay only about a third of what I get here, and it's so expensive to live there. Did ya ever assemble that trio? Hey is there any chance you would be free to play a symphony gig in Las Vegas Sep 18-23rd? Conductor friend of mine is desperate and looking to bring in cellists from LA or SD...email me if interested (batcello@aol.com)

jekerry
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(9/9/00 9:38:19 am)
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what a nice looking cellist
I mean I guess that shouldn't count for anything -- but dang, he's down right cute!

Anyone like that group the "Dixie Chicks"? First time I saw them (I had never heard them), I thought (which was mean), "Well, she's too pretty, I bet she plays like crap." But the violinist plays pretty good in a bluesgrass kind of way.

I bet some people think this Zuill Bailey is bad just because he's cute -- there is that sort thing in classical music. If you're not over 60 with a growth on your face and hair coming out of your ears and nose you can't really be taken too seriously . . .

Jane

Dorie Straus 
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(9/9/00 8:06:05 pm)
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I don't get pictures of a cute cellist from this url; I get an error.

String4tetCellist
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(9/10/00 4:36:23 pm)
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Well, of course his good looks shouldn't count for anything.
But, however, people should not write off his playing as not good simply because of them. I can think of a few young cellists who are quite good looking but whose playing I don't enjoy...but then again, if they were not attractive I wouldn't like their playing more! Truthfully, Zuill's is my kind of playing (the kind that often skates close to the edge...!) What I've heard of his playing has been quite good- technical facility, flair...he actually studied with a person I know well, so I know him a bit, too. He's a really good person and a great cellist...so what if he's cute?

Laura Wichers
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(9/10/00 4:40:57 pm)
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How do you pronounce "Zuill"?

Is it "zool"? "zoo-ee"?

yo yo jr
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(9/10/00 4:52:14 pm)
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It's pronounced Zool. He took lessons from my current teacher and all my teacher ever talks about is Zuill, and he has a right to, he is a very talented man.

String4tetCellist
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(9/10/00 4:52:34 pm)
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It's Zool...

String4tetCellist
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(9/10/00 5:55:56 pm)
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Yo-yo jr.- who's your current cello teacher? not, by any chance, Joel Krosnick?

jekerry
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(9/10/00 6:37:02 pm)
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keep trying
I had to copy and paste the url into my locator bar and hit refresh to get there. I had the same problem. He's awful cute, and I'm not one to notice cute guys -- but DANG HE'S CUTE!

Jane

G M Stucka
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(9/10/00 8:00:49 pm)
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Sorry, you lustful gals. Zuill has a Mrs. Bailey

BA
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(9/11/00 3:32:55 am)
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"James"

David Sanders 
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(9/11/00 11:12:13 am)
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He's playing a Ravinia "Rising Stars" recital sometime this year, I believe.

String4tetCellist
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(9/11/00 4:59:16 pm)
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Re: Sorry, you lustful gals. Zuill has a Mrs. Bailey
I know, I know. I've met her...!

Dorie Straus 
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(9/11/00 5:01:06 pm)
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Nah...
All cute men should come with such a warning.

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(9/11/00 7:32:59 pm)
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BA
BA,

I've emailed HAL. SD is nice (as usual), sure beats 100+ temps.

Reviewers are probably not helping him if they focus on his "looks". But they (reviewers) are probably hurthing their own credibility the most. I think of what someone reported in this thread about a Zuckerman review and how she/he wished he had turned his backside to face the audience more!!???? I don't thini THAT reviewer will be working for the NY Times if they see that review!

The Las Vegas Phil? If it's in VEgas, will I have to Don an Elvis costume? Just kidding!


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BA
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(9/12/00 2:52:13 am)
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Yes, not to mention that there has been no rain in Texas since March, 1907. No wonder I keep hesitating in giving up my old job... Sent you an email-keeps getting returned.

That Zuckerman review was from a small Las Vegas Paper, BTW.


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