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WhataDaryl Registered User (10/1/00 12:47:11 am) Reply |
Things
that frustrate cellists
Howdy, y'all, The following are
things that frustrate me. I'm just curious if it does anyone
else.
1. The white line of rosin on your left leg where
bow crosses after playing. 2. The lack of decent "modern"
cello sheet music. 3. 1st chair cello can never be "Concert
Master." Where's our Right of Equality? 4. The
way a cello placed on its side while you organize the sheet
music is invariblely tripped over (even if it's against the
wall). 5. The string that always seems to break first is the
"D" string. 6. You can't use the endpin to skewer the
violists.
Feel free to add y'all's own list of gripes. In
fact, I encourage it. I'm curious about everyone's
views. Daryl
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vlcgirl Registered User (10/1/00 1:06:49 am) Reply |
Re:
Things that frustrate me
I have to save up for months just to
afford a new set of (always desperately needed) strings, and my
guitarist-boyfriend joyfully replaces his every weekend for about
$8!!! grrr....
Toting the thing across campus in the
rain...or on any form of public transportation....
That's
about all I can think of! (mostly I just love the cello, being a
cellist, etc. )
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ollec Registered User (10/1/00 8:44:43 am) Reply |
Re:
Things that frustrate cellists
I identify with all of those except
#1. How do you manage to get rosin on your left leg? My personal
gripes are: 1. You can't play standing up 2. Lugging 21.5
pounds around all day doesn't do great things for my bowing
arm 3. Everything about the instrument is so darn
expensive! 4. Non-musicians always think it's a big violin It
is so incredibly worth it, though!
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Stefan79 Registered User (10/1/00 9:17:29 am) Reply |
Re:
Things that frustrate cellists
1. When the members of my
string quartet ALWAYS tell me to play softer. 2. When you sit and
play in the orchestra and the bass-players won't play with the
conductor. 3. Sitting in the orchestra in concert, playing the
Mozart bassoon concerto in Bflat and realizing that the one and only
bass-player is like - two beats late in the slow movement. 4.
Hearing the Bach suites played on saxophone (!).
And
there's plenty more where that came from...
- Stefan
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Laura
Wichers Registered
User (10/1/00 10:16:31 am) Reply |
Re:
Things that frustrate cellists
1. Wrong seatings #1 and #2. 2.
Listening to violinists complain about the cost of the
strings. 3. Listening to violinists complain about how difficult
it is to produce a big sound. 4. "What is that you have there, a
clarinet?" Yeah, I don't think so. 5. Chairs with arms at
gigs. 6. In orchestras/chamber: "Too much cello!" (no such thing,
IMO) 7. You're a music major? You want fries with
that?
-Laura
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zambocello Registered User (10/1/00 1:37:01 pm) Reply |
Re:
Things that frustrate cellists
1. The prices. 2. Travelling
w/cello. 3. A long walk from the car on a sunny day with the
cello in a dark case. 4. Extreme changes of weather. 5. Pops
concerts. 6. Cramped opera/ballet pits, with hard walls which
hurt bows and reflect sound so that we're always getting
shushed. 7. The need for earplugs. 8. The infrequency with
which church organs are tuned. 9. Tchaikovsky.
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Lissey
 Registered
User (10/1/00 2:15:58 pm) Reply |
Re:
Things that frustrate cellists
You've said most of mine
already:
1. Lugging it around, especially if you're carrying
books and stands along as well. 2. The fact that a frightening
number of people don't know what a cello is. 3. Lousy
arrangements that never let anything that vaguely resembles a melody
into the cello part - those are only for the violins. 4. It's so
darn expensive! 5. Travelling with cello isn't simple - if it
were a flute you could just shove it into your bag. 6. Very low
chairs or no chairs (yes, that actually happened - I was playing an
open-air quartet in the middle of nowhere and the organisers failed
to realise that I can't play standing up - I ended up playing
sitting on a rock somewhere near the sea!) 7. People complaining
about the dangerous end-pin - just look where you're going !
As
you lot said though, it's all so worth it!
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WhataDaryl Registered User (10/1/00 2:54:28 pm) Reply |
Long
legs
Hey, Ollec, I'm afraid I've got
extremely long legs. The only way to hold the cello comfortably for
me causes my knees to protrude slightly above the body of the cello.
Whenever I cross over onto the "A" string, the last couple of inches
of my bow always graze my kneecap on the left. It leaves a rosin
buildup on my leg. I've gotten to wear I lay a rag (when practicing,
a hankerchief during concerts) over my left side.
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karen83 Registered User (10/1/00 7:26:53 pm) Reply |
Re:
Things that frustrate cellists
Guys with huge hands!!! I'm so
jealous.
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Dorie
Straus  Registered User (10/2/00 4:55:36 am) Reply |
1.
Cellos
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MsCheryl
.gif) Registered User (10/2/00 7:43:48 am) Reply |
Re:
Things that frustrate cellists
Having just finished a weekend of
wedding gigs -
1. Lugging a cello, stand, pocketbook (the
size of a briefcase ) and a bag
of books and having the violist stop and ask if you could just take
her stand for a second!!!!
2. "Do you take requests? How
about some Led Zeppelin? Ha ha ha." (Some day I am going to arrange
something and pull it out at that point - that'll show 'em - and
what REALLY kills me is that the people who ask that don't look like
they've listened to any Led Zeppelin in their lives!!!!
Aurgh!!!)
3. "Would you like something to drink - I'll bring
four waters" then a wait like we are supposed to fall down and kiss
this person's feet! ( oh - and food - on a four hour job -
ha!)
4. "Oh - we were supposed to pay you today? Let me find
Steve...." (the husband) Gone for twenty minutes - last seen
schmoozing with guests...... (and they get upset when the contract
says to send in the balance 10 days before!!!!)
5. The cello
part I love - it's the other nonsense that drives me bananas!
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Laura
Wichers Registered
User (10/2/00 2:05:16 pm) Reply |
Re:
Here here to #4!!!
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mcello Registered User (10/2/00 8:47:28 pm) Reply |
Things
I hate about playing the cello
1. Rarely having a comfortable chair
to play on! I'm tired of backaches after concerts! or numb legs
during the concert.
2. Traveling and carrying the cello
around. I always get the comments about how the instrument is bigger
than I am.
Other than that--I love it! Have a great
day!
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stella Registered
User (10/3/00 3:04:40 am) Reply |
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Things that frustrate cellists
1. nothing (as we all know too well)
is cheap on the cello. NOTHING.
2. i must re-emphasize that
IT SUCKS TO PLAY SITTING DOWN ALL THE TIME! it would be nice to be
able to stand, to sway, to stretch between songs, to have less stiff
backs and behinds...
3. rosin marks on black clothes - one
more cellist with long legs wishing i knew how to avoid
it...
4. sound-men at bars/nightclubs asking, "so what do you
need to amplify that guitar?"
5. emphasizing again the point
that guitarists can replace their strings a dozen times for what it
costs to replace ours once.
6. feedback, feedback,
feedback
7. "well...i could hear you on your solo..." or the
ever popular, "...i could hear you during the quiet parts..." (see :
cellos never get the melody, always low-end
harmony/rhythms...)
8. must have car with either : giant back
seat (if 2-door), 4-doors, or SUV/truck type of vehicle. cannot take
cello with you on your bike, unless you're an acrobat on the side.
must own sidecar to travel with cello by motorcycle. must attempt to
purchase plane ticket for separate seat for cello when flying, to
avoid baggage crew tossing it around like a sack of potatoes.
GRRRR!!!
and i still love it, wouldn't trade it for
anything...except maybe piano (Grand at that) which is even more
huge, heavy, expensive, hard to move, played traditionally sitting
down, and everything else!
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Paul
Tseng ICS Staff  Administrator (10/3/00 2:56:36 pm) Reply
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TOP 10
thing that frustrate THIS cellist
10. Bad conductors
9. Bad
conductors with bad tempers
8. Chairs that wobble
7.
Bows that need Rogaine
6. Soloist platforms that are too
short for the endpin.
5. Clueless First Violinists in
Quartets
4. Taco Bell Canon
3. Finally finding that
one historic recording after weeks of research only to find it's
out of print
2. Not having enough donuts during a
break
and the number 1 frustration of this
cellist...
1. Too much talk (arguing)about cello/music and
not enough music making!
Paul Tseng, Cello Chat Administrator
Today's Quote
My Website
MP3! The San Diego Cello Society
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sarah
schenkman Registered User (10/3/00 5:16:18 pm) Reply |
conductors
l. Conductors that waste our
time.
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Corrina
Connor Registered
User (10/3/00 7:26:05 pm) Reply |
10
Things
1) Chairs that are too low
2)
Chairs that don't stack so that I can make 'em the correct
height
2) No adjustable piano stool
3) Seats that tilt
back.
4) Having bought a ticket at great expense for my cello
on the Intercity Coach, and having cleared it with the Officials,
being interrogated by the bus, driver, having shown him my two
tickets, and told to put my cello into steerage or else. I then had
to burrow through my baggage and find my tickets again...
5)
Teachers of violin, flute, clarinet, viola. . .who tell me to play
softer in chamber groups.
6) People who drop doors on me when
I'm carrying my cello in front of me
7) People who assume
that a naked cello is a punching bag for the feet.
Whew. .
.10 things is a lot, so I'll chicken out after 7
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SlavaBilly Registered User (10/3/00 8:24:42 pm) Reply |
10
things that drive me nuts
1. Endpins slipping on smooth floors
during performances.
2. Conductors who tell the cello section
to play softer because they can't hear the trumpet/horn/trombone
solo.
3. Conductors who yell at the cello section when the
basses screw up.
4. Violinists who think fast high passages
are as easy on the cello as they are on the violin.
5. Bitchy
violists in quartet.
6. Concert halls that sound like a
football field.
7. Stupid pianist bowings from the
conductor.
8. Bach suites played on the trombone.
9.
People who don't know what a cello is, or think I play the
guitar.
10. Maria Kliegel's 'Swan'.
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pnorris Registered User (10/3/00 10:03:44 pm) Reply |
Re: 10
things that drive me nuts
I second #5(bitchy violists)!!
Otherwise my personal tick offs are: 1."I bet you wished you
played the piccolo." 2. Never getting the melody in pop
songs 3. Stand partners who move the stand closer and closer to
themselves - leaving you 50 feet away from the music. 4.
Principals who miss entrances and yell at the rest of the section
for coming in right. 5. Violinists who think faster is always
better. 6. Dry wind conditions(Santa Anas in southern CA)my poor
cello's seams open up every time. 7. Contractors who "forget" you
need shade during a day time gig. 8. Ordering a great piece you
heard on the radio only to discover its, well, a little beyond your
reach right now. 9. Second violinists in quartets(in
general). 10. Jazz musicians who assume cellists don't(can't)
play jazz.
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Paul
Tseng ICS Staff  Administrator (10/4/00 12:36:07 am) Reply
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Santa
Ana winds
I feel your pain. We are in the same
part of town.
Paul Tseng, Cello Chat Administrator
Today's Quote
My Website
MP3! The San Diego Cello Society
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String4tetCellist Registered User (10/4/00 6:50:26 am) Reply |
If the
cello annoys you so, just play the violin..
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