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WhataDaryl
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(10/1/00 12:47:11 am)
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Things that frustrate cellists
Howdy, y'all,
The following are things that frustrate me. I'm just
curious if it does anyone else.

1. The white line of rosin on your left leg where
bow crosses after playing.
2. The lack of decent "modern" cello sheet music.
3. 1st chair cello can never be "Concert Master."
Where's our Right of Equality? :)
4. The way a cello placed on its side while you
organize the sheet music is invariblely tripped
over (even if it's against the wall).
5. The string that always seems to break first is
the "D" string.
6. You can't use the endpin to skewer the violists.

Feel free to add y'all's own list of gripes. In fact, I encourage it. I'm curious about everyone's views.
Daryl

vlcgirl
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(10/1/00 1:06:49 am)
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Re: Things that frustrate me
I have to save up for months just to afford a new set of (always desperately needed) strings, and my guitarist-boyfriend joyfully replaces his every weekend for about $8!!! grrr....

Toting the thing across campus in the rain...or on any form of public transportation....

That's about all I can think of! (mostly I just love the cello, being a cellist, etc. :b )

ollec
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(10/1/00 8:44:43 am)
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Re: Things that frustrate cellists
I identify with all of those except #1. How do you manage to get rosin on your left leg?
My personal gripes are:
1. You can't play standing up
2. Lugging 21.5 pounds around all day doesn't do great things for my bowing arm
3. Everything about the instrument is so darn expensive!
4. Non-musicians always think it's a big violin
It is so incredibly worth it, though!

Stefan79
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(10/1/00 9:17:29 am)
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Re: Things that frustrate cellists


1. When the members of my string quartet ALWAYS tell me to play softer.
2. When you sit and play in the orchestra and the bass-players won't play with the conductor.
3. Sitting in the orchestra in concert, playing the Mozart bassoon concerto in Bflat and realizing that the one and only bass-player is like - two beats late in the slow movement.
4. Hearing the Bach suites played on saxophone (!).


And there's plenty more where that came from...:)


- Stefan

Laura Wichers
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(10/1/00 10:16:31 am)
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Re: Things that frustrate cellists
1. Wrong seatings #1 and #2.
2. Listening to violinists complain about the cost of the strings.
3. Listening to violinists complain about how difficult it is to produce a big sound.
4. "What is that you have there, a clarinet?" Yeah, I don't think so.
5. Chairs with arms at gigs.
6. In orchestras/chamber: "Too much cello!" (no such thing, IMO)
7. You're a music major? You want fries with that?


-Laura

zambocello
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(10/1/00 1:37:01 pm)
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Re: Things that frustrate cellists
1. The prices.
2. Travelling w/cello.
3. A long walk from the car on a sunny day with the cello in a dark case.
4. Extreme changes of weather.
5. Pops concerts.
6. Cramped opera/ballet pits, with hard walls which hurt bows and reflect sound so that we're always getting shushed.
7. The need for earplugs.
8. The infrequency with which church organs are tuned.
9. Tchaikovsky.

Lissey 
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(10/1/00 2:15:58 pm)
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Re: Things that frustrate cellists
You've said most of mine already:

1. Lugging it around, especially if you're carrying books and stands along as well.
2. The fact that a frightening number of people don't know what a cello is.
3. Lousy arrangements that never let anything that vaguely resembles a melody into the cello part - those are only for the violins.
4. It's so darn expensive!
5. Travelling with cello isn't simple - if it were a flute you could just shove it into your bag.
6. Very low chairs or no chairs (yes, that actually happened - I was playing an open-air quartet in the middle of nowhere and the organisers failed to realise that I can't play standing up - I ended up playing sitting on a rock somewhere near the sea!)
7. People complaining about the dangerous end-pin - just look where you're going >: !

As you lot said though, it's all so worth it!

WhataDaryl
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(10/1/00 2:54:28 pm)
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Long legs
Hey, Ollec,
I'm afraid I've got extremely long legs. The only way to hold the cello comfortably for me causes my knees to protrude slightly above the body of the cello. Whenever I cross over onto the "A" string, the last couple of inches of my bow always graze my kneecap
on the left. It leaves a rosin buildup on my leg. I've gotten to wear I lay a rag (when practicing, a hankerchief during concerts) over my left side.

karen83
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(10/1/00 7:26:53 pm)
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Re: Things that frustrate cellists
Guys with huge hands!!! I'm so jealous.

Dorie Straus 
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(10/2/00 4:55:36 am)
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1. Cellos

MsCheryl 
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(10/2/00 7:43:48 am)
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Re: Things that frustrate cellists
Having just finished a weekend of wedding gigs -

1. Lugging a cello, stand, pocketbook (the size of a briefcase :( ) and a bag of books and having the violist stop and ask if you could just take her stand for a second!!!!

2. "Do you take requests? How about some Led Zeppelin? Ha ha ha." (Some day I am going to arrange something and pull it out at that point - that'll show 'em - and what REALLY kills me is that the people who ask that don't look like they've listened to any Led Zeppelin in their lives!!!! Aurgh!!!)

3. "Would you like something to drink - I'll bring four waters" then a wait like we are supposed to fall down and kiss this person's feet! ( oh - and food - on a four hour job - ha!)

4. "Oh - we were supposed to pay you today? Let me find Steve...." (the husband) Gone for twenty minutes - last seen schmoozing with guests...... (and they get upset when the contract says to send in the balance 10 days before!!!!)

5. The cello part I love - it's the other nonsense that drives me bananas!

Laura Wichers
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(10/2/00 2:05:16 pm)
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Re: Here here to #4!!!

mcello
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(10/2/00 8:47:28 pm)
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Things I hate about playing the cello
1. Rarely having a comfortable chair to play on! I'm tired of backaches after concerts! or numb legs during the concert.

2. Traveling and carrying the cello around. I always get the comments about how the instrument is bigger than I am.

Other than that--I love it! Have a great day!

inta stella
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(10/3/00 3:04:40 am)
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Re: Things that frustrate cellists
1. nothing (as we all know too well) is cheap on the cello. NOTHING.

2. i must re-emphasize that IT SUCKS TO PLAY SITTING DOWN ALL THE TIME! it would be nice to be able to stand, to sway, to stretch between songs, to have less stiff backs and behinds...

3. rosin marks on black clothes - one more cellist with long legs wishing i knew how to avoid it...

4. sound-men at bars/nightclubs asking, "so what do you need to amplify that guitar?"

5. emphasizing again the point that guitarists can replace their strings a dozen times for what it costs to replace ours once.

6. feedback, feedback, feedback

7. "well...i could hear you on your solo..." or the ever popular, "...i could hear you during the quiet parts..." (see : cellos never get the melody, always low-end harmony/rhythms...)

8. must have car with either : giant back seat (if 2-door), 4-doors, or SUV/truck type of vehicle. cannot take cello with you on your bike, unless you're an acrobat on the side. must own sidecar to travel with cello by motorcycle. must attempt to purchase plane ticket for separate seat for cello when flying, to avoid baggage crew tossing it around like a sack of potatoes. GRRRR!!!

and i still love it, wouldn't trade it for anything...except maybe piano (Grand at that) which is even more huge, heavy, expensive, hard to move, played traditionally sitting down, and everything else! ;)

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(10/3/00 2:56:36 pm)
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TOP 10 thing that frustrate THIS cellist
10. Bad conductors

9. Bad conductors with bad tempers

8. Chairs that wobble

7. Bows that need Rogaine

6. Soloist platforms that are too short for the endpin.

5. Clueless First Violinists in Quartets

4. Taco Bell Canon

3. Finally finding that one historic recording after weeks
of research only to find it's out of print

2. Not having enough donuts during a break

and the number 1 frustration of this cellist...

1. Too much talk (arguing)about cello/music and not enough music making!


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sarah schenkman
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(10/3/00 5:16:18 pm)
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conductors
l. Conductors that waste our time.

Corrina Connor
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(10/3/00 7:26:05 pm)
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10 Things
1) Chairs that are too low

2) Chairs that don't stack so that I can make 'em the correct height

2) No adjustable piano stool

3) Seats that tilt back.

4) Having bought a ticket at great expense for my cello on the Intercity Coach, and having cleared it with the Officials, being interrogated by the bus, driver, having shown him my two tickets, and told to put my cello into steerage or else. I then had to burrow through my baggage and find my tickets again...

5) Teachers of violin, flute, clarinet, viola. . .who tell me to play softer in chamber groups.

6) People who drop doors on me when I'm carrying my cello in front of me

7) People who assume that a naked cello is a punching bag for the feet.

Whew. . .10 things is a lot, so I'll chicken out after 7 :rollin

SlavaBilly
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(10/3/00 8:24:42 pm)
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10 things that drive me nuts
1. Endpins slipping on smooth floors during performances.

2. Conductors who tell the cello section to play softer because they can't hear the trumpet/horn/trombone solo.

3. Conductors who yell at the cello section when the basses screw up.

4. Violinists who think fast high passages are as easy on the cello as they are on the violin.

5. Bitchy violists in quartet.

6. Concert halls that sound like a football field.

7. Stupid pianist bowings from the conductor.

8. Bach suites played on the trombone.

9. People who don't know what a cello is, or think I play the guitar.

10. Maria Kliegel's 'Swan'.

pnorris
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(10/3/00 10:03:44 pm)
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Re: 10 things that drive me nuts
I second #5(bitchy violists)!! Otherwise my personal tick offs are:
1."I bet you wished you played the piccolo."
2. Never getting the melody in pop songs
3. Stand partners who move the stand closer and closer to themselves - leaving you 50 feet away from the music.
4. Principals who miss entrances and yell at the rest of the section for coming in right.
5. Violinists who think faster is always better.
6. Dry wind conditions(Santa Anas in southern CA)my poor cello's seams open up every time.
7. Contractors who "forget" you need shade during a day time gig.
8. Ordering a great piece you heard on the radio only to discover its, well, a little beyond your reach right now.
9. Second violinists in quartets(in general).
10. Jazz musicians who assume cellists don't(can't) play jazz.

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(10/4/00 12:36:07 am)
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Santa Ana winds
I feel your pain. We are in the same part of town.


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String4tetCellist
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(10/4/00 6:50:26 am)
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If the cello annoys you so, just play the violin..


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                    New Re: If the cello annoys you so, just play the violin..-me4cello 10/5/00 2:43:30 am  
                         New I was just kidding!!!!-MusicKid13 10/5/00 11:20:14 pm  
                    New Here's what bothers me......-MusicKid13 10/5/00 12:15:02 am  
                    New ahh - the marriage is still new.....-MsCheryl  -NT 10/4/00 12:17:43 pm  
               New 10 Things-Corrina Connor 10/3/00 7:26:05 pm  
                    New 10 things that drive me nuts-SlavaBilly 10/3/00 8:24:42 pm  
                         New Re: 10 things that drive me nuts-pnorris 10/3/00 10:03:44 pm  
                              New Santa Ana winds-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  10/4/00 12:36:07 am  
               New TOP 10 thing that frustrate THIS cellist-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  10/3/00 2:56:36 pm  
                    New conductors-sarah schenkman 10/3/00 5:16:18 pm  
               New Re: Things that frustrate cellists-inta stella 10/3/00 3:04:40 am  
               New Re: Things that frustrate cellists-MsCheryl  10/2/00 7:43:48 am  
                    New Re: Here here to #4!!!-Laura Wichers-NT 10/2/00 2:05:16 pm  
                         New Things I hate about playing the cello-mcello 10/2/00 8:47:28 pm  
               New 1. Cellos-Dorie Straus  -NT 10/2/00 4:55:36 am  
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