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pnorris
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(10/2/00 7:08:11 pm)
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arranging pop tunes for string quartet
In my quartet, we have a lot of requests for pop tunes that aren't in the standard gig books(Somewhere in Time most recently). I have been letting one of the other members of the group do the arrangements, but I have not been pleased with her work. My main gripe is she copies the bass line from the piano part verbatim and calls it a cello part. I don't mind arrpeggios, but not all the time! The said arrpeggios are often in horrid keys and/or don't lay well(No! they're supposed to be all slurred!). How do those of you who do pop stuff regularly handle it? Do you use a computer program to help you, do you hire someone to arrange stuff for you? Any tips would be greatly appreciated

Laura Wichers
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(10/2/00 8:58:49 pm)
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Re: arranging pop tunes for string quartet
I always start off with a piano part, mainly because my ear recognition isn't as good as it needs to be to figure all the chords out. I usually do the cello part the same as the bass line, and then add/take away parts to make it interesting. Same for the vlns & vla. So far, I've only done some Simon & Garfunkle and some Steve Miller (GREAT stuff).

To get an idea of what it possible, there is a great CD out called "The String Quartet Tribute To R.E.M." on Vitamin records, CD-8517. The arrangements are great, I particularly like the Superman quartet version. Very, hmmm, unique.


-Laura

sarah schenkman
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(10/3/00 12:42:35 pm)
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arranging pop tunes for string quartet
My husband arranges all kinds of music for our string quartet. He uses Sibelius music writing program and downloads Midi files off the internet, Sibelius translates them into scores and then he arranges them. We get a huge variety of music that way.

Laura Wichers
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(10/3/00 1:59:32 pm)
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Re: Sibelius
Do you think Sibelius is worth the money? If I remember correctly, it's around $300. I really don't like Finale, but need some sort of notation program. The more gizmos the better.


-Laura

Bobbie 
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(10/3/00 2:05:22 pm)
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Re: Sibelius
You can download a demo of Sibelius and see if you like it better than Finale. I recently tried out both (Mac versions) and liked Finale 2001 better but I don't remember why. I think the best price I've seen on Sibelius is $275.

Sopher
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(10/4/00 11:07:32 am)
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Laura,

I haven't tried Sibelius but I recently got Finale 2001. I like it a lot - not only does it import MIDI files great as mentioned but I really like the scanning features - you can scan sheet music in and with a little fixing up it is in the computer for transposition, etc. This has been a great way to get my daughters Suzuki violin stuff in quickly - she can play along with it to get both intonation and rhythm feedback and I can vary the speed from slow as she is learning a piece to full tempo as she masters it. The recordings are great but you can't vary the speed on them.

Also, my wife and I like to play duets on tenor sax and french horn, which is hard to get - we can get any duets for any two instruments - scan them into Finale and transpose them for our instruments. The Disney recorder duets are especially fun as our daughter will sing along!

What was it about Finale that you didn't like? Maybe I have missed some of the weak areas.

Sopher

Bobbie 
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(10/4/00 2:23:13 pm)
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Finale 2001
Were you able to use MicNotator? Finale has a feature that is supposed to let you play your instrument in through the mic and it will be notated as played. But I can't use it because it won't work with virtual memory turned on and there isn't enough memory with VM turned off.

One thing I miss in Finale is being able to drag a note to a different pitch.

zambocello
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(10/5/00 12:17:41 am)
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Finale and MicNotater
I think Finale 2001 is great. MicNotator is intended for wind instruments. I tried it with cello and it made a mess, even worse than my cello playing!!! Perhaps partly because of my cheap microphone, but I think partly because the cello sound is so full of harmonics, it couldn't "hear" the fundamental pitch well.

Sopher
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(10/5/00 11:53:16 am)
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Re: Finale 2001
I haven't tried micNotator yet - I'll have to see if my sax works!

I'm sure that you can drag a note to a different pitch, but I can't remember if you have to be in simple entry or speedy entry mode - I'm pretty new to it. I know I dragged a note up onto the correct pitch yesterday when it scanned in on wrong, but I had to look up in the tutorial how to do it!

I have heard (no 1sthand knowledge) that Siberlius is good if you like their canned layout, but if you like to tweak everything Finale is more towards that!

Good luck!

Sopher


          New arranging pop tunes for string quartet-pnorris-(8)-10/2/00 7:08:11 pm  
               New Re: arranging pop tunes for string quartet-Laura Wichers 10/2/00 8:58:49 pm  
                    New arranging pop tunes for string quartet-sarah schenkman 10/3/00 12:42:35 pm  
                         New Re: Sibelius-Laura Wichers 10/3/00 1:59:32 pm  
                              New Re: Sibelius-Sopher 10/4/00 11:07:32 am  
                                   New Finale 2001-Bobbie  10/4/00 2:23:13 pm  
                                        New Re: Finale 2001-Sopher 10/5/00 11:53:16 am  
                                        New Finale and MicNotater-zambocello 10/5/00 12:17:41 am  
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