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Remmick
Registered User
(10/6/00 12:08:45 am)
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Lost in
Manufacturers
I am just beginning to play and
looking to get my first instrument. I have tried to find sites that
tell more about different producers of cellos and how they compare.
No luck finding one. I have ran across the same names and wondered
which were worth looking at and which are not.
Gliga,
Duetsch,and Englehardt Any help would be much appreciated.
Val
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JanJan
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User
(10/6/00 8:01:42 am)
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Lost in Manufacturers
What you definitely want to avoid is
a plywood monster. I'm not 100% certain, but I think Englehart is
plywood. I'm not familiar with Gliga. The first cello I bought was a
Rudolph Doetsch, and if that's the brand you're refering to, they're
pretty good instruments with a nice big sound.
I highly
recommend you contact Ellen at Cellos2go. She's extremely
knowledgeable, and even more helpful.
Good luck.
Janet
http://www.nese.net
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Todd
French 
Registered User
(10/6/00 8:41:19 am)
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Lost in Manufacturers
Val,
You are going about your
search the right way - asking fellow cellists their opinions is much
more valuable than trying to get information from a site that will
more than likely be biased toward its own brand of instruments.
Remember, only you can make the decision of which instrument is
right for you - you are the one who has to play it day after day
:-)
I strongly suggest you perform a search on the board as
there is a lot of information about many different brands already
posted on the board, so you might have all your questions already
answered. Perform a search (using the search function at the top
right) and enter some key words to direct your search. You will
probably come up with 15 - 30 messages directly dealing with various
new instrument brands, and what the cellists on the board think
about them.
Good luck in your search!
Todd
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cellocase
Registered User
(10/7/00 8:09:40 am)
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Hi Janet -- it sounds like you had
good luck with your Doetsch, and many people do. They DO have a big
sound. But ours developed the infamous crack in the first year, and
my daughter's two friends had multiple cracks. I've heard this
happen a lot with this make, and it's put me off the Doetsch. Does
anyone know how this affects resale price? Karin
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cellochris99
Registered User
(10/10/00 5:27:03 am)
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I think the Doetsch cellos have tops
that are graduated very thin. This is supposed to make them sound
better when brand-new. The set back is, you have problems with
cracks alot sooner, hence the thinner tops. Does anyone know how to
tell if a cello has a overly thin top, just by examining
it?
Read my lips: Strooong economy... Good!........
Cracks......baaad!
Chris
Edited by: cellochris99
at: 10/10/00 5:27:03 am
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Ellen
G 
Registered User
(10/10/00 9:08:08 am)
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Play as many as you can. The labels
are not very reliable at this stage of the game, for a few reasons.
For one, a single manufacture can send cellos to many places, each
of which has their own brand name they put inside. So you could be
comparing two different brands which are really from the same
manufacturer. Secondly, while the label may go on the body, any
number of changes are made to a cello by the quality and cut of the
bridge, the type of strings, the age and quality sound post, and
tailpiece. Also, some shops do further in-house grading of their
instruments that other shops don't.
You need to play cellos
in and out of your price range. Hear and feel the differences. There
is no substitute for hands-on. And like anything from clothes to
restaurants, what one person raves about may be absolutely horrible
in someone else's opinion. You know what sound you want, what price
you can pay, what fits you. Try them on.
Ooops. The value of
labels does come into play with certain instruments that are noted
as laminated student instruments. They do serve a purpose as
workhorses in certain settings where nobody would, in their right
mind, put a carved instrument which does tend to be more delicate.
Public schools and small kids, for example. More necks get snapped
off those things, or kids trip over the endpins, or fall on their
cellos while packing them up. I've witnessed this any number of
times. But when you're not in that type of setting, it really is
better to stay away from those. The price difference is not as much
as you might think to move out of laminate and into carved.
Now go play cellos!!!!!
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ruthann
Registered User
(10/10/00 1:16:46 pm)
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I can put in a plug for the Gligas.
I bought a Gliga violin for my daughter. It is beautifully made,
looks, sounds and plays like a "real" instrument, not a student
instrument, and the price was quite reasonable.
If you can't
get out to try a lot of cellos, set your price point and go to a
reputable dealer. We have two who regularly contribute here:
Stringworks and Cellos2go. Either one will give good value for the
money and both offer rentals.
Good Luck.
cello_suttonr@hotmail.com
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Len
Thompson
Registered User
(10/12/00 6:30:05 pm)
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CELLOCASE
Hey, where exactly did the infamous
cracks show up on your Doetsch. I have one that is relativly new,
and I want to keep an eye on it. Also,I'm wondering what you did to
remedy the cracks, and how it turned out.
Thanks for any
info!
Len
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cellocase
Registered User
(10/12/00 9:53:04 pm)
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CELLOCASE
Len, our cracks were right in the
middle of the top, starting from top down and bottom up. I can't
remember exactly where my daughter's friends' were, but all were on
the tops. We took the Doetsch back to Potters in Bethesda (it was
less than a year old) and they pulled off the top, glued the crack
and put in some bracing crosspieces as well. Only cost $300. It
seems OK so far, 4+ years later, still has its big sound. He advised
using TWO large dampits all the time, and we live in humid central
virginia! Karin
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Len
Thompson
Registered User
(10/13/00 8:09:10 pm)
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THANKS
FOR THE INFO KARIN !!
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