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Bob
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(10/7/00 2:20:20 pm)
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Bigfoot
Ever since I was little, I'd heard people talk about a key called "Ab minor." Probably saw it once in a theory book somewhere. But I never thought I'd encounter it in real life.

Well, if you live long enough, strange things will happen. I was rehearsing "Jenufa" this morning, and by God, there it was!!! Not just for a few measures either! A couple pages of this stuff. I suppose Janacek had his reasons, but wow did it sound & feel bizarre.

Ellen G 
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(10/7/00 6:20:57 pm)
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Help?
You KNOW I never had theory courses. Splain, please. I've been trying to get the hang of this, with great difficulty. Where am I going wrong? Five sharps, B major, relative minor Ab? If this is it, why would it be a "mythical" key one only hears about as a little person but never encounters until playing Janacek? Inquiring minds want to know.

Tom Flaherty
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(10/7/00 6:37:18 pm)
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Re: Help?
Hi Ellen,

The relative minor of B major is G# minor, also with five sharps (which is why it's called "relative" - same key signature, tonics a minor third apart). If you were to respell G# as Ab, you would of course respell all the other notes in the scale and come up with Ab minor (whose relative major would be Cb.) Although different contexts may make it important to spell a note as either G# or Ab, a key signature IS the context most of the time. Given a choice of spelling a minor key as G# (5 sharps) or Ab (7 flats), most composers would choose G# as the easier one to read, unless you are making a short excursion from a key with a lot of flats.

I'm curious Bob, is the section you are playing surrounded by flat keys? or is Janacek just being ornery? By the way (Bob), Justin says hello. He just zoomed through LA.

Hope (Ellen) that's not too confusing .

Bob
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(10/8/00 8:00:55 am)
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Re: Help?
The passage, as I said, isn't short, but it is preceded by a key signature with only 3 or 4 flats. Sure feels good when it ends, though.

Glad you & Justin hooked up. Of course what we're REALLY interested in is how his other socializing went . . .

Peter D
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(10/9/00 10:18:58 am)
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Encountering Ab Minor in your daily excercises
Hello Bob,

Don't you love the Caprices of Piatti and Servais? The great Piatti Caprice #6 takes a fairly long journey through Ab minor on its way homeward. The music is as deep as Australia and well liked. Servais Caprice #3 is written outright in Ab minor.

PatWhite
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(10/10/00 9:12:58 am)
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Re: Help?
Ellen, think of it this way: the sixth note of a major scale is the name of that major key's relative minor. Example, the sixth note of the C Major scale is A. Therefore, A minor is the relative minor to C Major. If you use this method, the enharmonics will not confuse you.

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