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Laura
Wichers
Moderator
(2/28/01 10:58:20 am)
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Brahms
Double recording...
I'm hoping to start working on the
Brahms Double Concerto this spring. Any suggestions for recordings?
TIA
Laura
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ekifri
Registered User
(2/28/01 1:00:28 pm)
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Re:
Brahms Double recording...
The dream team ;-)
Slava and
Oistrakh
on the same cd- beethoven triple with slava,
oistrakh and Richter.
Awesome!!
-eva
Great Recordings
Of The Century - Beethoven: Triple Concerto; Brahms: Double Concerto
/ Oistrakh, Rostropovich, Richter
Composer: Ludwig van
Beethoven, Johannes Brahms
Conductor: Herbert von Karajan, George
Szell
Performer: David Oistrakh, Mstislav Rostropovich, et
al.
Emd/Emi Classics - #66954 / March 9, 1999
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Paul
Tseng ICS Staff 
Administrator
(2/28/01 1:06:41 pm)
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Re:
Brahms Double recording...
I too like that Slava/Oistrak
recording.
There's a more recent (relatively) recording with
Slava and Perlman which I really like too.
But don't forget
Stern/Rose.
TTFN!
Paul Tseng
My Website
Alexander's website
MP3!
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Christopher
Chan
Registered
User
(2/28/01 1:09:04 pm)
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Re:
Brahms Double recording...
Of the 4 or 5 i've heard I really
enjoyed the Oistrakh/Rostropovich recording with Szell and the
Cleveland Orchestra in 1970. The orchestra is the best i've heard
and Slava and Oistrakh have such incredible tone. I have mp3s of
that performance along with heifetz/piatigorsky, and Ma/Perlman if
you would like to hear for yourself.
If you would like a
copy i also have a video of the performance with Frank Miller/Misha
Mischakoff with Toscanini and the NBC Symphony.
Let me
know.
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Ryan
Selberg 
Registered User
(2/28/01 3:52:01 pm)
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Re:
Brahms Double recording...
Don't overlook the wonderful
pairings of Pierre Fournier and Oistrakh and and earlier one with
Franciscatti (sp?), Heifetz and Feuermann, and the audio recording
of Miller and Mischakoff. There are lots of great ones! I did just
read about one you should avoid, a BBC broadcast with Menuhin and
Rostropovich. The reviewer in BBC Music Magazine was very
unflattering in his comments about Menuhin.
Ryan
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David
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Registered User
(2/28/01 8:38:02 pm)
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Re:
Brahms Double recording...
I was in my car and turned on a live
performance of the Brahms. The cellist was great, the violinist was
having severe problems. It turned out to be Menuhin/Rostropovich.
Menuhin really did not sound good.
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Paul
Tseng ICS Staff
Administrator
(2/28/01 9:59:17 pm)
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Re:
Brahms Double recording...
I never knew this recording existed.
Bummer that Menuhin wasn't at his best. I'm sure it would have been
a fine coupling otherwise.
Still, I'm interested to hear how
Slava sounded in that situation.
Paul Tseng
My Website
Alexander's website
MP3!
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Christopher
Chan
Registered
User
(3/1/01 12:15:51 am)
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Re:
Brahms Double recording...
All this talk about Slava and
Menuhin has intrigued me. I don't even think Slava knows about this
recording. I listened again to an old radio telecast of an interview
with Slava and Starker and Slava said that he only recorded the
Brahms Double Concerto twice, and i quote "once with Oistrakh and
once with Perlman".
I did some searching and to my adulation
i found that they sell the CD of this performance! It's apparenlty a
pretty new release, 11/28/2000. I bought it right away.
www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=2144468
music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?userid=476LMF817F&ean=684911405026
if
you want it cheap get it here:
www.alldirect.com/music/mItem.asp?mitemNo=684911405026&cartID=0801781120010228
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Toscha
Registered User
(3/1/01 3:16:43 am)
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re:
Brahms Double recording.
Don't forget the legendary recording
of Thibaud/Casals! I heard well over a dozen recording of this work
and I still like this one the best. Their pacing is superb and the
music flows so naturally without any sign of plodding even when they
are being most expressive. The bright, sweet tone of Thibaud and
gutsy, noble tone of Casals blends beautifully. The playing of
orchestra is not the best (there are some untidy moments), but has a
lot of spirit (conducted by Alfred Cortot).
If you can find
Milstein/Piatigorsky recording, that is also worth listening to. I
don't click with Oistrakh/Rostropovich recording partly because the
outer movements are bit slow and plodding for my taste. If I want to
hear Oistrakh playing this piece, I'd rather listen to his earlier
recording with Fournier. If I recall correctly, it was somewhat
better paced.
As a contrast, Campoli/Navarra and
Ferras/Tortelier offer very bright, virtuostic playing. May not be
to everyone's taste, but nevertheless
interesting.
Toscha
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BA
Registered User
(3/2/01 1:08:44 am)
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kudos
to Toscha
I just want to add that his
recording suggestions are always consistently excellent, well
thought out and show a truly remarkable knowledge of the recorded
repertoire.
I am always educated by his posts, and hope that
others are also able to give them the attention they deserve. Alas
in this format they must compete for attention with 18 year olds
ranting about how super/terrible everything Slava/Starker/Ma plays
is, usually speaking from very limited knowledge and experience. I
hope we are all listening when a knowledgable voice speaks.
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Jon
Pegis
Registered
User
(3/2/01 9:17:20 pm)
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Brahms
Double Trivia
There's an interesting recording
that may not be available anymore. It was made quite a few years ago
with Zukerman, Harrell, and NY Phil/Mehta. It shows how little input
the soloists have on the final product, because this recording was
seriously messed up in the final mix. I've talked to Lynn a lot
about this recording, and he's really disappointed with it. He
always hopes that it will be re-mastered and re-released. It did
come out a few years ago on a budget CD, and while the sound was
cleaner the inbalances were not addressed. Apparently what happened
in the final mix was that Mehta decided that the Orchestra sound was
not enough, and he had them really pump up the orchestra tracks. The
end result is a recording that sounds great when just Harrell and
Zukerman are playing, but when the orchestra comes in it just about
blows the house down. (Or you have to constantly adjust the volume.
Definitely not a recording for apartment-dwellers!) Anyway, if you
happen to see it, give it a listen some time. Both soloists play
very well, but the final product was not what they wanted.
Jon
Pegis
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G
M Stucka
Registered User
(3/3/01 12:13:21 am)
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Re:
kudos to Toscha
Dittos from G Stucka (see my "To
Toscha" post way down the board.)
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