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lblake 
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(3/10/01 9:17:20 pm)
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Lightweight Tailpiece?
On the endpin thread, somone else asked for opinions on tailpieces. I had been thinking about the same thing, and am very anxious to hear responses, so I thought I'd second the request by starting a new thread on the subject!

So, let's have it - I hear a lighter tailpiece may often improve the tone and/or responsiveness on a cello.

So, what are the nicest (most traditional-looking, but lighter) tailpieces and why, in your opinions? Materials? built-in fine tuners? etc...? Thanks!

Christopher Chan
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(3/10/01 10:38:45 pm)
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This thread has been beat to death on this board i think, but i don't mind rehashing it at all. I don't think there'll be any disagreement that the lightest most attractive and highest quality tailpiece is the Harmonie Carbon fiber tailpiece. Lighter tailpieces can and do improve the tone and responsiveness of a cello. A metal tailgut is also recommended as well.

http://www.harmonie.net/

Steve Drake
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(3/11/01 12:04:25 am)
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Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?
I highly recommend the harmonie tailpiece. I've got one that's a fabulously flamed boxwood (they're not normally flamed).

I also have an akustikus on another cello, which works ok, but I keep meaning to change it to another harmonie.

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lblake 
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(3/11/01 9:42:19 am)
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Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?
Thanks for not minding! Ya know, I actually DID a search on the word "Tailpiece" in just the subject, AND in the entire message, and got nothing. And I tried it on other boards, too - I dunno. Maybe I was just having a bad search day.

Anyway, thanks! So, my question about the harmonie ones are: are they really wood? And if so, are they really so much lighter than my ebony tailpiece would be? And, do they really make them of Pernambuco, too? (not that that's what I would necessarily want, but...) Just want to make sure I'm planning to get the right thing.

Thanks!

Christopher Chan
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(3/11/01 11:20:22 am)
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Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?
The harmonie tailpieces come are wood, either boxwood, ebony, rosewood, or pernambuco, the tuners are made of carbon fiber which makes them so light. i also must say they are the easy tuners i've ever used.

www.johnson-inst.com/catalog/fouilhe.htm

TerryM 
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(3/11/01 11:37:28 am)
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Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?
The search function on this board does not do a very good job. You can find one of the previous threads at:

pub1.ezboard.com/fcellofu...=717.topic

The Harmonie tailpiece is great! I went from an ebony with add-on tuners to an Akusitcus to the Hammonie with great improvments in sound and sound projection. The Acustikus is ok, but the finish is awful and in my estimation, looks "tacky." The real bonus with the Harmonie was the fine tuners. These work very well, although I had to put a small drop of oil on mine to get the action going. The Akusticus tuners were not very good at all.

Terry

PaulFM
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(3/12/01 11:27:59 am)
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Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?
I went through the same issue about 2 months ago (there are several threads on the subject. Mine as well as others). Not having alot of funds to invest I choose a Whitter Utra-light tailpiece ($25) and a sarconni adjustable tailgut. I did make an improvement in tone and increased the volume. The first rehearsal after I installed the tailpiece I had to be carefull not to play to loud. I was also able to tune the afterlength. Whether that helped remains to be seen. Good Luck.
PaulM

Duane Nevins 
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(3/13/01 12:54:23 am)
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harmonie tailpieces
I also have a harmonie tailpiece on my cello and I love it. I agree with Steve Drake. They are the best tailpieces you can get. The one I have is made of purnambuco wood and the craftsmanship is superb, the appearance is beautiful, the weight is light, and the fine tuners are the best you can get. They are also versatile. If you ever want to remove the fine tuners you can. They just fall out of the slot on the tailpiece because they are just held in place by the tension of the strings and if you want to attach a string directly to the tailpiece without the fine tuner you can easily do so. I hope this helps.

Duane


cellochris99
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(3/13/01 3:58:51 am)
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tailpiece
What is the best way to do this tailpiece switch without the soundpost moving out of place from the lack of string tension?

Chris

Steve Drake
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(3/13/01 12:01:32 pm)
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Have a luthier do it. If you do it yourself, you need to know how to set up a bridge, and a soundpost in case it drops. It isn't too complicated - I've installed a number of tailpieces, which is about the most complex repair I'm willing to do. But if you're not sure about what you're doing, don't try. Setting up a bridge is more complicated than many people realize.

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          New Lightweight Tailpiece?-lblake  -(9)-3/10/01 9:17:20 pm  
               New tailpiece-cellochris99 3/13/01 3:58:51 am  
                    New Re: tailpiece-Steve Drake 3/13/01 12:01:32 pm  
               New harmonie tailpieces-Duane Nevins  3/13/01 12:54:23 am  
               New Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?-PaulFM 3/12/01 11:27:59 am  
               New Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?-Steve Drake 3/11/01 12:04:25 am  
               New Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?-Christopher Chan 3/10/01 10:38:45 pm  
                    New Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?-lblake  3/11/01 9:42:19 am  
                         New Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?-TerryM  3/11/01 11:37:28 am  
                         New Re: Lightweight Tailpiece?-Christopher Chan 3/11/01 11:20:22 am  
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