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ruthann
Registered User
(3/8/01 1:59:26 pm)
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LvB
Sonata #2 in g
Although I'm quite sure I should be
indulging in political rants and name calling...
I've been
listening to Slava's complete Beethoven CD with Richter, looks like
these were recorded in the 60s. The last mvmnt is played SO FAST. It
kind of made me nervous just listening to it. Yes, it's exciting, a
magnificent performance, but I just couldn't quite enjoy it, the way
I do when it's played at a slower tempo.
Maybe it's because I
play this Sonata, but nowhere near this fast. Maybe I'm just getting
old - just when I thought I had attained the meaning of life, the
universe, and everything.
What do all of you think? Am I a
communist? No, wait, wrong post. How fast do you like the final
mvmnt of sonata #2? What recordings, slower/faster do you
particularly like?
Oh, yeah, and someone please tell me 42
isn't old.
cello_suttonr@hotmail.com
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Paul
Tseng ICS Staff 
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(3/8/01 2:19:52 pm)
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Re: LvB
Sonata #2 in g
As much as I love Slava's cello
playing. I'm not a huge fan of his Beethvoen Recording with Richter.
(Give me his Shostakovich, Prokofiev, Grieg, Miaskovsky,
Kabalevesky, etc...any day though!)
My favorite recording of
the Beethoven Sonatas are by Ax and Ma. I agree with your assessment
of the tempi and pacing of Slava and Richter's recording.
Nervous...yes, it sounds a bit that way. I like most Beethoven to be
very steady and strong in pulse.
42 isn't too old, it's the
ANSWER!
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Edited by: Paul
Tseng ICS Staff at:
3/8/01 2:19:52 pm
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dennisw
Registered User
(3/8/01 3:35:42 pm)
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LVB
Sonata #2
I agree with you and Paul. IMO, Mr.
Rostropovich plays this movement way too fast. It's too frenetic.
I've heard him do this over & over again on different
pieces. I really don't know what he's getting at. It doesn't make
the music more exciting. It almost feels like a horse-race. I
wouldn't call it poor taste, but it just sounds like he's
clueless.
It's great that he knows how to play fast and can
demonstrate it to everyone, he should save it for small showpieces
like "At the Fountain".
That being said, I've also recently
heard the g minor sonata as recorded by Ms. Dupre. It is positively
deadly because it is *way* too slow. With this movement, I prefer
too fast to too slow.
So, now that I have judged the tempi of
others, just what is the correct tempo for the rondo??
Well,
I have this idea in my head the Mr. Beethoven had a pulse running
through him as he penned the sonata. This pulse was between 72-76
bpm. For the 1st movement adagio, try 72-76 to the eighth, for the
2nd movement allegro try 72-76 to the dotted half, and for the 3rd
movement rondo try 72-76 to the quarter note.
This works for
me. You may want to check with your pianist too. Mr. Richter was
clearly scuffling to play the notes in the recordings. The piano
part is much more difficult than the cello part. As we all know, you
certainly want to keep on the good side of your accompanist. I
usually tell mine to set the tempo in this sonata, then I try to
push them forward.
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zambocello
Registered User
(3/8/01 7:00:32 pm)
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Goodness, I hope 42 isn't old!
I'm there in a couple of months 
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galois00
Registered User
(3/8/01 10:36:40 pm)
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42
doesn't sound old to me . . .
since I just turned 41. I like to
remember the saying: in ten years you'll never believe you were once
as young as you are now.
Dan
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justinkagan1
Registered
User
(3/8/01 10:57:53 pm)
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Re: LvB
Sonata #2 in g
It has always spooked me how Rostro
and Richter essay the sonatas..I never liked any of them, and I'm
the biggest Slava fan on the planet after M. Tseng. Seems that there
were a spate of cheesy, out-of-kilter Beethoven performances coming
out of the soviet Union in those days, like they just didn't get it,
which has always puzzled a large section of the music community. I
always loved Gilels Beeth Concerto #3, but it seemed an anomaly.
This was my feeling from many years ago; I'm intent on giving a
re-listen one of these days.
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Matthew
Tifford
Registered
User
(3/9/01 1:02:04 am)
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The
Answer
Sorry Paul, I think I may be the
only one to get that "Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy" reference. We
are both big nerds. :-)
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42
Registered User
(3/9/01 1:49:05 am)
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ok.....
I'm not old ;-P
sorry... I couldn't resist
:-)
edit: BTW.... I got the reference :-)...(duh) but only a
couple of others have called me on it thus far.
Edited by: 42
at: 3/9/01 1:49:05
am
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