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Ellen G 
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(1/30/01 10:12:25 am)
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Q on teacher's role
I became aware of a YO cellist who had been playing a number of years, working on some advanced repertoire, who had not changed her strings in years, didn't know she should, didn't know how to do it, and didn't know anything about types of strings. Again, this seems to me like driving the car and just putting gas in it. Which I dare say a lot of us probably do.... Are we supposed to all know how to change a tire and oil but leave the engine rebuilds to a pro?

I also realize the term "teacher" can fit anyone certified by the State to legally stand in a classroom as well as a conservatory trained professional cellist who teaches, so this alone seems problematic. Also a "student" can be a 3rd grader, or someone with years of dedicated study. So given the impossible parameters I just put on this question...

Does, or should, a teacher instruct on things like changing strings, checking your bridge -- general instrument maintenance -- or do they feel their job is strictly to teach technique and move you through the repertoire? I can see a public school little kid being handed a cello and not knowing how to change a string, but a privately-taught student on her own instrument who's auditioning on Haydn, well.....

ruthann
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(1/30/01 1:18:39 pm)
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Certainly care and feeding should be part of the instruction. I encourage my students to really look at their instruments, so that they know when something looks wrong. But some students and some teachers seem to treat the instrument as if it were just a box.

We have a weekly suzuki violin group - string-along - at which I always help with the tuning of those 60 little violins. I'm amazed at some of the things I've seen. When something looks really funky, I'll had it off to the violin teacher, figuring that she is much better at putting all the parts in playing position than I am. Last week I had two come through my hands that were so poorly set up as to be nearly incapable of producing any sound. The violin teacher told me they both came from the same teacher - a teenager who is a pretty decent violinist. But obviously this teenager doesn't know much about setup. How can she possibly be an effective teacher? Can you tell that this is one of my pet peeves? The partially sighted leading the blind, for a price!

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Len Thompson
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(1/30/01 4:02:47 pm)
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Helpless!
Most driving schools don't teach you how to change a flat. And some people never learn, ever! Some people don't want to learn eather, ever! Obviously, people on these boards are interested in the how and why of cello maintenence and set-up. I think a teacher should know the basics and attempt to pass them along as long as the student is receptive to them. Personally, I would rather learn to change a flat myself, rather than be stuck on some dark and lonely road, in the middle of nowhere, and helpless!

Len

Bobbie 
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(1/30/01 4:39:45 pm)
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I learned to change a string the first time I started cello, in the fifth grade. I learned to change a flat when I started driving. (My daughter's friends are all impressed that she knows how to change a flat and change her own oil.) However, I know advanced cello students who never have changed a string because their mother does it for them, and I admit I've been guilty of doing it for a student instead of teaching her how, mainly to save time ( I do explain the process as I do it.)

Corrina Connor
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(1/30/01 10:43:28 pm)
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None of my teachers have ever taught me anything about string changing/when to change strings etc etc.....we worked it out by trial and error :rolleyes with most assistance coming from music-shop staff.

My mum changed all our strings until a little while ago - mainly because strings are so expensive, and she didn't want me to bust 'em ;)

I certainly instruct my little 'un, or rather, their parents, in these arts. The amount of poor little kids who can't produce a good sound because their bow has 3 hairs on it, or no rosin, or rusty strings/back-to-front bridge! Mein Gott!


I am suprised that this person has been playing so long and still is so naive!


          Q on teacher's role-Ellen G  -(4)-1/30/01 10:12:25 am  
               Re: Q on teacher's role-Corrina Connor 1/30/01 10:43:28 pm  
               Re: Q on teacher's role-Bobbie  1/30/01 4:39:45 pm  
               Re: Q on teacher's role-ruthann 1/30/01 1:18:39 pm  
                    Helpless!-Len Thompson 1/30/01 4:02:47 pm  
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