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Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(1/26/01 6:38:16 pm)
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What obscure cello work do you dream about playing
There are lots (maybe not obscure to everyone)

I'd love to play:

Miaskovsky's cello concerto
Vlassov's cello concerto
Lev Knipper's Concerto-Monologue for Cello, Wind Ensemble and Tympani in C major

Hmmm....what about y'all?

Oh yeah! Suzuki's "Twinkle Variations" on one string in 23.5 position! :)


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G M Stucka
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(1/26/01 6:49:47 pm)
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Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing
Well, I've already played one dream (Stock Concerto). Another is to have a chance to work up and >TRY< to play the Reicha Concerto that Feuermann played with Barzin and the National Orchestral Association. Also, once in my life, I'd like to play the solo in Strauss' Don Quixote with an orchestra. Chances to play the Walton and the Prokofieff Symphonie Concertante are high on the list, too. I'm tired of practicing, tho. Oh, well.

ekifri
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(1/26/01 7:13:22 pm)
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Reicha Concerto
Can you tell more about this?
I know of Reicha cello and string quartet works, and also quite a bit of chamber music for winds or winds and strings,
but is there a cello concerto?
thanks
-eva

G M Stucka
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(1/26/01 7:16:23 pm)
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Re: Reicha Concerto
The Reicha in question is the better-known Anton's uncle, Joseph. Joseph Reicha wrote several cello concertos. If memory serves, the one Feuermann played is in A Major.

TerryM 
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(1/26/01 7:36:59 pm)
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I would like to play the first cello sonata in D minor by the Austrian composer Robert Fuchs (1847-1927). His claim to fame is that of being the teacher of Gustav Mahler and Sibelius. His cello sonata won the immediate approval of Brahms, who was usually very critical of most of his contempary composers.

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Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(1/26/01 7:52:24 pm)
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Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing
Sad that Walton's Cello Concerto and Prokofiev's SYMPHONY-CONCERTO (:) ) are begining to be considered obscure.

Chances too play are high on the list? Does this mean we might get to hear you play these? AWESOME!

I can understand being tired of practicing these pieces though. I mean physically tired. whew! I know what that is all about!


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Jon Pegis
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(1/26/01 8:51:37 pm)
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Obscure pieces
The Walton and Dutilleux rank high on my lists. I also grew up with the Slava recording of the Vlassov concerto, and I believe that my brother Chris actually tracked down some music for it once. Does anyone know if that recording was ever re-released on CD?
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Steve Drake
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(1/26/01 11:16:55 pm)
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Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing
I don't consider it obscure, but the Walton concerto is on top of my list.

Maxwell Davies "Vesali Icones" would be on there, but I've already done it. Would like to do it again right sometime....

The Lutoslaski concerto.

The Carter sonata, which I could probably do if I could just get some motivation (and gobs of time fatherhood has taken away).

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zambocello
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(1/27/01 1:28:05 am)
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What obscure cello work do you dream about playing
I recently checked one off my list - the Hindemith Kammermusik for cello and 10 instruments. Great piece and great fun.

There are some lovely early classical concertos that are rarely done: Monn, Porpora, CPE Bach. I've done the A major CPE Bach and it seems to be the most often played. The other two (are there more?) are also fine pieces.

Recital pieces I can play when I want, but there are some good ones that just never get off the shelf --the Martino "Parasonatina" (yes, I go for that kind of stuff), Neikrug's solo sonata, Bernstein Meditations, Takemitsu "Orion," etc.....

Of concertos that I most likely will never play, Brahms Double, Pokofiev S-C, and Walton are the ones I daydream most about. I also quite like the William Schuman Song of Orpheus.

This list could go on forever..........

sarah schenkman
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(1/27/01 8:19:14 am)
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Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about pla
Miklos Rosza theme and variations for violin, cello and orchestra.

justinkagan1 
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(1/27/01 9:49:28 am)
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Re: What obscure cello work ...for Steve
Steve-o; don't dream the Carter, do it, it's a great work; it has been the richest cello discovery process for me preparing it for the April recital. Just make sure you can find a super pianist, the part is heroic for sure. On my list of "obscure" is the Penderecki concerto, one of my faves...aside from the notes, the challenge is finding a percussion section with roto-toms and a sense of fantasy and Hitchcockian dread. Yeah, the Walton makes my list as well.
My best friend's bro, John Jorgensen, just moved into Nashville, down on whatever the main drag is there, some 100 year-old house, sounds great. Hope you run into him...superb musician, has been one of Elton John's guitarists for the last couple or four years, and founded the Hellecasters and Desert Rose Band, among others...his eponymous solo album is terrific, check it out.

Edited by: justinkagan1  at: 1/27/01 9:49:28 am

KeithHall
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(1/27/01 1:29:58 pm)
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Obscure Works
If I ever had the chance (and was able to!) I would love to play a work by the Finnish composer Jonas Kokkonen. His cello concerto is awesome. I have a recording with Arto Noras. Try listening some day - highly recommended.
Funny thing that just earlier today I was packing my case - (I'm having a week in the sun next week in the Canary Islands). I have packed 10 cello CD's which I've been meaning to listen to for some time.
Among the 10 CD's, there are 2 of the works mentioned in this thread. The Reicha concerto performed by Feuermann (never played the CD before) and the Lutoslowski (with Slava). I have never really got into the Lutoslowski concerto before -and I am determined to like it one way or another!!

cellofreak2000 
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(1/27/01 2:35:19 pm)
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obscure works
"Songs of Weavers and Wayfarers" by David Baker for cello and percussion.
Anyone knows this? .....I am still looking for Starkers and Steve Gabor´s recording of this jazzy piece. As far as I know it has been released by Laurel records......

String4tetCellist
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(1/27/01 5:27:44 pm)
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I was in Frank Music the other day, looking through a pile of cello music they have out in front (lots and lots of obscure stuff) and I came across a cello concerto by Anton Rubinstein. I looked through it and it seemed really beautiful and all. I didn't end up buying it, but I've been thinking about it ever since....I LOVE Melody in F.

David Sanders 
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(1/28/01 10:15:48 pm)
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Re: What obscure cello work...NONE!

AaronReeves
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(1/28/01 11:57:41 pm)
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Obscure?
While I'm not sure that ANYONE would call this piece "obscure" it is my dream and goal in cello playing: Kodaly's Sonata for Cello, Opus 8.
Gosh, I LOVE that piece. I have a recording of Yo-Yo Ma playing it (no debate regarding Ma, please. Thank you! :) ) and I just love it so much.

I would also like to play the Carter Sonata. Everytime I go music shopping, I see a copy of it sitting there, and I think, "Let's look at that again" but every time I pick it up and look, I immediately set it back down. It's already way too difficult for me in the very first measure of the piece!! I'm just overwhelmed every time. :) Never even heard a recording of it, and not exactly sure that I want to know what it sounds like. I WILL attempt it someday long from now, and I would rather put my own expression into it rather than always remembering how someone else played it. Anyone share this opinion?

Aaron

Ryan Selberg 
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(1/29/01 2:30:27 pm)
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Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing
For starters, the David Ott Concerto for 2 cellos and orchestra (it was commissioned by the National Symphony, under Rostropovich, and premiered by two of the outstanding section players). I have always liked the Dohnanyi Concertstuck, too. And there are several orchestral works featuring huge cello solos that I am constantly campaigning for (although unsucessfully so far): Tchaikovsky's 2nd Piano Concerto, whose second movement is a virtual piano trio; the Prelude to "I Masnadieri" by Verdi, whose cello solo was written for Piatti, who was the principal cellist of the English opera house (Covent Garden?) where it was premiered; the Adagio, from the 2nd I (think) Ballet Suite by Shostakovich, (I do play the cello/piano version); and Franz Schmidt Symphony #4. And like Sarah, I would love to play the Rozsa Sinfonia Concertante for Violin and Cello, from which the Theme and Variations is the middle movement (the work was commissioned by Heifetz and Piatigorsky, but they only performed and recorded the second movement, with a revised orchestration for chamber orchestra. The full work was actually premiered by the Chicago Symphony and its principals, Victor Atai(?) and Frank Miller.)

Ryan

ekifri
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(1/29/01 4:13:45 pm)
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Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing
Well, not necessarily obscure but,...
Bartok rhapsodies - originally for violin.
And I'm tempted to look up everything else mentioned here.

--eva

Is there a cd available with Feuermann playing the aforementioned Reicha Concerto? Which one is that? I did a bit of searching without luck.

String4tetCellist
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(1/29/01 4:41:39 pm)
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Carter Sonata
Aaron, I LOVE the Carter. I have a recording of Joel Krosnick and Gilbert Kalish playing it (just in case you do in fact decide to get a recording...:) it's WONDERFUL!). Anyway, it's really a fantastic piece and I, too, hope to play it one day (also probably long from now...when I learn to COUNT! :lol )

danielemanuel
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(1/30/01 5:21:31 am)
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How about..
How about the Concertante for Violin and Cello by the neglected Louis Spohr?
I have been listening a lot to Spohr (well, those few recordings I have been able to find) lately and he is pretty neat :)

\Daniel

emerald 
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(1/30/01 8:46:11 am)
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Gulda
How about the cello concerto by Gulda..is that considered obscure? I think it's a great piece..


          What obscure cello work do you dream about playing-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  -(21)-1/26/01 6:38:16 pm  
               What obscure cello work do you dream about playing-mstein 1/31/01 2:35:36 am  
               How about..-danielemanuel 1/30/01 5:21:31 am  
               Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing-ekifri 1/29/01 4:13:45 pm  
                    Gulda-emerald  1/30/01 8:46:11 am  
               Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing-Ryan Selberg  1/29/01 2:30:27 pm  
               Obscure?-AaronReeves 1/28/01 11:57:41 pm  
                    Carter Sonata-String4tetCellist 1/29/01 4:41:39 pm  
               Re: What obscure cello work...NONE!-David Sanders  -NT 1/28/01 10:15:48 pm  
               Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about pla-sarah schenkman 1/27/01 8:19:14 am  
               What obscure cello work do you dream about playing-zambocello 1/27/01 1:28:05 am  
               Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing-Steve Drake 1/26/01 11:16:55 pm  
                    Re: What obscure cello work ...for Steve-justinkagan1  1/27/01 9:49:28 am  
                         Obscure Works-KeithHall 1/27/01 1:29:58 pm  
                              obscure works-cellofreak2000  1/27/01 2:35:19 pm  
                                   Re: obscure works-String4tetCellist 1/27/01 5:27:44 pm  
               Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing-TerryM  1/26/01 7:36:59 pm  
               Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing-G M Stucka 1/26/01 6:49:47 pm  
                    Re: What obscure cello work do you dream about playing-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  1/26/01 7:52:24 pm  
                         Obscure pieces-Jon Pegis 1/26/01 8:51:37 pm  
                    Reicha Concerto -ekifri 1/26/01 7:13:22 pm  
                         Re: Reicha Concerto -G M Stucka 1/26/01 7:16:23 pm  
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