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vsteele
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(1/26/01 9:48:21 am)
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artificial harmonics
I am an amateur adult intermediate player and am working on the Scherzo and Nocturne of Geoffrey Burgon's Six Suites for solo cello. Both these movements have artificial harmonics in them and I do not know how to play them. I thought that I was supposed to put my thumb on the note written in bold, and put my third finger in octave position, and play it as a harmonic and I was supposed to get a pitch of a fourth above the thumb note with this third finger. No matter what I try, I get an octave or a fifth.

Here is an example, measure 80 of the scherzo:

Treble clef, regular note = B flat, harmonic of this chord is written as E flat, then play regular A harmonic. Am I supposed to put my thumb on B flat, located in the first position location on the A string?

Here is a second example, measure 81 of the scherzo:

Bass clef, chords. First chord is regular note is F sharp on the D string, harmonic is B. Second chord, regular note is G sharp on the D string, harmonic is C sharp.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

42
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(1/26/01 10:20:09 am)
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harmonics
HI, I hope I can be of assistance......
Artificial harmonics as I recall them:

I believe the notation you are describing is a solid note head where the thumb should be stopping the string, and a open diamond on the 3rd finger.

The first thing to remember is that these can be played a P4 or a P5 above the thumb. If it is a P4 the note that sounds will be 2 octaves higher than the stopped note. If it is at the 5th the sounding note will be 1 octave higher than the 3rd finger (or a P12 above te thumb)......... I know that is confusing, but its tough to write.

example 1:
the sounding note should be a Bb 2 octaves higher. I would personally do this on the D string if you have time..... I dont know the piece, so I'm not sure.

Example 2:
the two notes should be F# and G# respectively, agian two octaves higher.

I hope this helps a bit and doesn't confuse you too much. It will take a bit of practice to make them soung good, but you will get the hang of it. I Maybe you can find someone to help you?..... it is much easier to demonstrate than to explain in writing.

--Mike :-)

Andrew Victor
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(1/26/01 11:32:45 am)
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I love harmonics
I love harmonics; cellos are so rich in them. Surely everyone has scooted their hand up and down the top of the fingerboard and sounded those ringing natural harmonics - especially on the top of the A string. The same many harmonics are also accessible at the bottom of the fingerboard (the same distance from the nut as they are from the bridge) - maybe a little harder to sound. And for each of these "natural harmonics" that has a certain linear-distance relationship to the nut, there is an equivalent harmonic that can be "fingered" or "artifically" accessed by fully stopping the string at any place and touching the equivalent higher position with another finger (the only limitation is the size of one's hand).

On violins the use of fingered ("artificial") harmonics is more easily accessed and much more common. On the violin, the common fingered harmonic is the one that sounds an octave higher, which is the most responsive one.

Andy

vsteele
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(1/26/01 12:24:21 pm)
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ah ha!
42,

Thanks. That helps quite a bit. Now can you explain the meaning of life? ;)

Victor Sazer
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(1/29/01 1:32:54 pm)
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artificial harmonics
Contrary to common practice when playing artificial harmonics, there is no need to hold the finger playing the lower note against the fingerboard. When you use your thumb and third finger for example, your thumb can touch the string, perhaps just a little more solidly than your third finger (but with the string still not touching the wood). This reduces friction and can make playing artificial harmonics a lot easier than the more traditional approach.


          New artificial harmonics-vsteele-(4)-1/26/01 9:48:21 am  
               New artificial harmonics-Victor Sazer 1/29/01 1:32:54 pm  
               New harmonics-42 1/26/01 10:20:09 am  
                    New I love harmonics-Andrew Victor 1/26/01 11:32:45 am  
                         New ah ha!-vsteele 1/26/01 12:24:21 pm  
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