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TerryM 
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(1/4/01 8:41:39 pm)
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So where did this cello thing all start ....?
I look back on that illogical moment in my life when I finally made the decision to begin my love affair with the cello. I had thought about it for some time and I agonized over the decision. These are some of the thoughts I had at the time. "I was too old and did not have a chance of going anywhere with it. People just don't start such things this late in life (I was 24!). No one I knew played the instrument so why was I driven to take it up? What was I trying to prove?"

When it finally happened, it did so somewhat by accident. My older brother was going out with a woman and I happened to mention to her that I was interested in taking up the cello. She told me that her father taught and in fact, had a cello that he might be willing to loan/rent or sell to me. She talked to him and he agreed and there I was suddenly and nervously on my way to meet this gentleman.

We hit it off pretty well and I started regular lessons with him. At the time, I did not have a car and had to take the city bus to and from my lessons. I did get the cello from him, but it did not have a bag or case and I used to ride the bus on Sunday mornings with my poor exposed cello to my lessons. I used to get a lot of strange looks from my fellow passengers on the bus. A couple of months later I bought a bag that cost more than the cello that my teacher had sold me at a very reasonable price.

I stayed with it for about three years and then career and marriage took me in other directions. I took it up again about six years later and got to a point where I played in a community orchestra. I then changed jobs and dropped it again for almost ten years. I have been back at it now for about eight years and this time I am sticking with it.

Each of us late starters must have gone through some difficult moments before taking up the cello. I wonder what motivated some of you to make the decision.

Terry

DWThomas
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(1/4/01 11:33:21 pm)
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Hmm, I'm not entirely sure. I had a "fling" with harpsichord in the early 80s, built one from a kit. After a few years, my teacher was no longer available. If you think cello lessons are hard to find ...

Well, anyway, fast forward to mid-90s (calendar, not age ;) ). A niece expresses an interest in trying cello. Meanwhile my wife has gone back to viola after a 20? year hiatus. So doting and well-meaning aunt & uncle acquire an inexpensive cello to encourage the niece (only later realizing the le$$ons are probably the hard part in her parents' eyes). So anyway, after said instrument gathered dust for a while it came back here and I signed up at the local community music school where my wife takes viola lessons.

I have always loved the sound of a cello, just never thought I could finger notes on something without keys or frets :eek .

So I can hear that I have a long way to go, but so far, so good.

Dave (Nearly 60 and still not sure what he wants to do when he grows up.)

Dorie Straus 
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(1/5/01 5:45:46 am)
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I've told this story before but maybe it's been over a year now...I played other instruments, piano, woodwinds but I loved the sound of the cello. In my mid-20's I thought more seriously about lessons, but I didn't get around to it. At some point several years later, I heard the Bach Suites and told myself that I had to play this thing. Still didn't run out and get one. In 1990, my mother had her second round of breast cancer. One night a few weeks before she died she rambled on for several hours talking about the regrets of her life and things she never got to do. She died in mid-July.

My birthday is at the end of August. The morning of my 36th birthday (1990), a friend asked what I wanted to do and half joking I said, go out and find a cello to rent. That's what we did. I rented an unplayable cello; broke the A string as soon as I got it home. I found a luthier in the phone book who sold me a string but also recommended a teacher, etc...
I took lessons for about 1.5 years then went to graduate school, then had a child, didn't play for almost 4 years. Went back to the cello by joining an all age, all level community orchestra. I play in a different community orchestra now, one at a higher level.

In 1998 I was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis and I've lost some of the dexterity in my hands, particularly the left. I do what I can to manage this. There was another thread here about having a slump - this summer was a real test for me. I did a lot of work on my house and suffered (physically) because of it. My cello playing is not where it was last spring. I go through periods of being upset about this but I try my best to keep it in some realistic perspective. I'm not always committed to the cello but I won't give it up. For one thing, if I gave it up I wouldn't be able to go to my orchestra rehearsals, my favorite personal two hours of my week.

My daughter started cello in June of 1999. I've turned much of my cello energy to her, practicing with her, playing with her. She can go so far.

Betsy C 
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(1/5/01 8:29:38 am)
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My car was on autopilot...
I have always just loved the sound of the cello and grew up playing other instruments but had not had music in my life for many years. Then 3 1/2 years ago I lost my sister very unexpectedly and tragically which proved to be an experience that made me reevaluate how I was living and what was important to me. It changed everything, really. (I am echoing a lot of Dorie's sentiments here). The thought of taking up an instrument again wove its way into my brain and kept nagging at me. One day I was on a local road that has a music store and as usual, I passed it. Next thing I knew, I was making a u-turn into the parking lot. I walked in and heard a disembodied voice ask if there were any cellos in the back that I could try. They brought out a little orange plywood cello and I had to ask which hand to hold the bow with! Sad, huh? I squeaked away for about 15 minutes, smiling the wole time, but it was enough to make me realize that I wanted to try this, and badly! I signed up for a month's worth of lessons on the spot, met my teacher and instantly knew we would click, and ended up purchasing a better cello within a month. That was in September 1999. While my progress is slow, I am very much enjoying everything about it, even my struggles because at times I overcome and make progress. It's a journey for me. There is no turning back now. It will always be one of the best things I ever did for myself.

Bobbie 
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(1/5/01 10:53:14 am)
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        I wanted to play the saxophone. In 5th grade, when we got to start instruments, the band people said beginners who wanted the sax had to start on the clarinet, so I looked around for another instrument, and found the cello. I played at school for three years, but never had lessons or a good teacher at school even, and never got out of first position, and quit eventually.
        Over the years, I took every opportunity I had to hear a cello play. In college and graduate school, I went to concerts whenever I could. I think I was encouraged to discover that a previous member of my research group was also a cellist, and still played as an adult. About that time I started reading the "Musical Instruments" section of the classifieds.
        Anyway, years passed, and much like Dorie (from whom I was apparently separated at birth except that she got all the artistic genes) I started again just before my 35th birthday. I found a cello for $300 and lucked out because it is very playable, although it doesn't have much of a sound and the endpin is too short. After a year my daughter wanted lessons, so I started them then, too. (She switched to violin later.)
I'm on my fourth teacher(I moved away from #1, #2 moved, #3 was a flake, and I keep my fingers crossed that #4 will live forever, teach forever, and never move unless it is closer to me!)

ruthann
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(1/5/01 11:38:03 am)
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I'm the youngest of 3 kids in my family. When my sister got to junior high, she decided she wanted to play the String Bass. I'm not sure why. She ended up being very good at it. My brother then took it up as well. When I hit the 4th grade, where public school music lessons were offered, I wanted to play, too. But 3 kids on one instrument would be too much. There was some discussion of the flute, but I had really bad teeth (could hardly close my mouth) so we settled on the cello, only knowing that it was the next smallest stringed instrument from the Bass.

After a year of public school lessons, the music teacher gave my parents the name of a private teacher. She was a wonderful old lady with very strong ideas about the right way to play the cello. My parents bought me a brand shiny new plywood cello. My teacher had the bridge refitted and insisted I use bare gut strings, no fine tuners. She gave me a rock solid foundation.

About the time I hit high school, family fortunes hit a snag, divorce, that put a stop to the lessons. But I had the cello, signed up for orchestra, and kept working on my own. My first teacher retired. I begged and begged for more lessons. We found a recent graduate of UW music school teaching cheap, and I was back on track. That teacher prepared me for college music school auditions.

Family fortunes had still only somewhat improved. My parents weren't keen on "wasting" a college education on music but we made a deal. If I could pass the audition and be accepted into the UW school of music as a performance major, Dad would buy me a "real wood" cello, and I would use my National Merit Scholarship to study music.

I played the 1st mvmt of the Mendelsohn D Major Sonata for the audition. My accompianist got lost at the first page turn and never returned! I kept on playing - imagining the piano part in my head, and tried to be as expressive as possible. They let me play the whole movement. I swear my best performances are always when something weird happens. I got in.

Music school was not a particularly happy time for me. There was a lot of snobbery and backstabbing among the students. The orchestra conductor was a complete jerk. When I finished, it was if there was no longer any joy left in playing the cello. I put it in the case and left it there for 5 years.

I ended up in California, teaching PE in high school. I met some other musicians and started playing some chamber music, occasionally got calls for a musical or a mass where they needed a cello. I went back to college, got a Computer Science degree, moved to the back of beyond, where I discovered that lots of scientists and engineers also play an instrument. Joined the community orchestra, rediscovered my love of playing. Found a wonderful pianist and a fabulous young violinist and formed a piano trio.

Amazingly I worked my chops back up to nearly college level. I love to play. And I now teach. I started my kids in Suzuki violin at 3. Why violin? The violin teachers (2) here are really great, with a group program every friday afternoon. And violins are cheaper!

Way more than you wanted to know!

cello_suttonr@hotmail.com

bridge 
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(1/5/01 12:24:14 pm)
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Ahh. Such a question. One that begs paragraphs and paragraphs.

In second grade, I was asked to choose an instrument for music class. For whatever reason (why do we prefer anything?) I chose cello. They told me that it was too big and to choose something else. I chose trumpet. I hated it. Played little baby stuff for one school year.

I got no encouragement from home. This is the stuff that good psychotherapy is made of. My mom would sing in the car along to music and it was torture. I've never heard anyone so off key in my life. I too didn't have a natural inclination for being on key, but I KNEW if it sounded bad. My wonderful mom told me that music didn't run in the family and that I shouldn't even bother. (I found out a couple of months ago that my mother's grandmother played piano at Carnegie Hall when she was 17!!)

Then I'm 19. I'm in college and becoming my own person. I'm a full time student and realize that I can audit music classes for "free". I'm thinking either violin or guitar. Cello wasn't even in my head anymore. I probably thought of violin because it's similar to cello and I had heard it in some rock and roll and jazz settings. (The music I was listening to.) Decided on guitar, because it was a more "common" instruement for the kind of music I liked to listen too. I had actually asked my mom for advice and that's what she recommended. You'd think I would have learned.

I never practiced. However, I would mess around all the time, and I sat through enough lessons that I learned a thing or two. I still had a good ear, in that I knew what was on or off key, but playing a fretted instrument and using a electronic tuner, I never learned to even tell what was sharp or flat, just that it was wrong. I spent a lot of time drinking and getting wasted and jamming very loud on my electric guitar with my similarly depressed and degenerate friends.

At about 27 I quit drinking and basically started trying to live my life for myself and not to meet everybody elses expectations. Meet my wife.

At my wife's nephew's. He has a half or 7/8 cello. I pick it up and immediately figure out a simple passage from a Lou Reed song that has cello on it (Street Hassle). Something clicks (at age 32 - Christmas '97).

By January of '98, I have a rental and lessons. I tell my teacher, that I'm not very musically inclined and don't have much of an ear, but I want to learn cello. After the first lesson he tells me, "You do have a good ear. You know what's in tune and what's not." I think of a "good ear" as my wife who came out of the womb and could belt out any song you wanted.

My ear has improved substantially. I really, really LOVE cello, and music as whole. Outside of my family (a two year old son now too) it is the most important thing in my life. I've been self teaching myself theory. It's been about two years. I'm not "great" but I'm working on such things as the Bach menuets from Suite 1. They're not great, but they're not terrible either. I also have a great teacher who'll let me play anything. I'm working on an arrangement of Jimi Hendrix's "Little Wing". I think that would sound really cool on the cello.

Eventually, I'd like to get out of being a full time engineer and pursue music.

I hope this isn't the longest post. :-)

Edited by: bridge  at: 1/5/01 12:24:14 pm

Nico67
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(1/5/01 1:20:04 pm)
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I told this story in the past, so I will try here to give the short version.

I have always been fascinated with music. When I grew up my older sister played the piano (quite well) and started taking lessons at 5. I remember I would walk with her to her lessons and just sit in the back watching. For some reasons my parents didn't send me to music lessons. That (and the fact that none of my boy friends played an instrument) led me to believe that it was a "girl" thing.
Growing up as a gay kid wasn't easy and I tried to prove to myself and to others my real manhood by getting into real "boy" things (basketball team, electronics lab etc etc). When my mother discovered me once playing from the first piano method book of my sister she immediately arranged for me to have lessons, but I told her that I wasn't interested. Talk about big regrets.

Time goes by. High school, college and in the back of my mind that voice that says "it would be nice to be able to play an instrument". I move to the US (grew up in Southern Italy, nearby where the movie "Malena" was shot) for grad school, come out, meet current boyfriend. Decide that after graduating will start music lessons. At that point I know it's going to be the cello (always loved the sound).

Yet, I graduate, get a really nice job with a good salary, and still postpone it for various reasons. Then one day I go back to my parents house to help them move. My mom tells me that there are various boxes in the basement with all my stuff that I should sort through to decide what I want to keep. In doing so I relive 20+ years of my life, bad years. I realize how much I missed when I grew up for not accepting me for what I am and for hiding aspects of my personality. I can't go back in my life, but I can do good with my future.

I came back here and I start cello lessons, start training for triathlons and start volunteering as mentor for gay kids in foster homes.

First teacher was really bad. This was about 2 years ago. Was with her for a couple of months, then my car was stolen and couldn't get to lesson. BY the time the situation was resolved she wasn't interested in giving me lessons anymore. Small hiatus. Start lessons again about 1.5 years ago (Summer 99). Great teacher. I don't know if slow or fast progress since I try hard not to measure myself with anybody else. Next plan is to find people to play with (I already have a friend who plays the violin and she accepted to play stupid music with me :) )


---Rosario

Tim Janof
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(1/5/01 7:46:22 pm)
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I'll chime in. I too am a CBN, after all. I'll try to keep it short.

My then step-father had it in his head that I would play the cello, for a reason that he has never revealed. So when I was 4 or 5 he brought me to the local violin shop and I left carrying a cello. Man, I still remember that day, how sunny it was, how proud I was to be carrying such a beautiful instrument.

My first, few, and last lessons for the next 15 years were given by my step-father, who had sort of played the violin before. Between Louis Potter Jr.'s book and the Applebaum series I guess he felt well-armed for the task. Well, things didn't go too well and the lessons stopped after a short time, though it was still the rule that I had to practice each day, strangely.

I can't say I enjoyed the cello very much at the time. A timer would be set and I would have to play until the bell went off. Naturally, it wasn't long before I figured out that I could secretly move the minute-hand in order to lessen my practice time. I also remember having the crazy idea that my parents couldn't hear when I wasn't practicing in my room upstairs. Little did I know that the floor would squeak as I tiptoed around my room doing other things instead of practicing, not to mention that no cello sound was emerging from my room. Kids....

So for the next 6-7 years I practiced on my own. In junior high school I joined my first school "orchestra" -- 2 violins, one cello, a tuba, and a clarinet -- which was not very satisfying. I didn't know how much I cared about the cello until I took this spiccato test in front of the orchestra class. I messed it up because I didn't understand what Mr. Applebaum meant in his description and the teacher didn't show us how to do it. I starting crying out of frustration and shame after I'd finished playing. The teacher gave me an 'A.'

Then I was sent to the All-City orchestra, a "transformative" experience. Somehow I must have been "good" enough to be assigned first chair. I still remember being overwhelmed, both by being in such a large group of string players, and by the music (Bach g minor "Little Fugue.") Finally, I started LOVING the cello, and my parents didn't have to tell me to practice (years later they confessed that they were surprised that I had stuck with it).

Inspired by this experience, my mom had me audition for the local youth orchestra (Seattle Youth Symphony), which accepted me. Still I'd never had a teacher. I would just pick up things on an as-needed basis, watching others as necessary. I guess the cello just made a certain sense to me (on a certain level, anyway) so I wasn't intimidated (though I probably should have been). Of course, I was learning horrible habits at the same time, which I am still paying the price for.

After 4 years of Youth Symphony, I went to college and had my first formal lessons with Toby Saks at the University of Washington. I studied with her for a couple of years, but I don't think we quite clicked. She wasn't so interested in teaching at that time, and I wasn't so interested in practicing. Not a good combination. I was greatly distracted by other things like physics, math, etc., though I experienced years and years of deep angst about not pursuing music as a career -- head vs. heart conflict.

Then, while a counselor/instructor at a music camp, I met Frances Walton (an ICS interviewee), who introduced me to Eva Heinitz (another ICS interviewee) who completely changed my world. Eva is a real whip-cracker, and I was finally eager to learn and practice, so we really clicked. I studied with her for the next 5 or 6 years. She really whipped me into shape, for which I am so grateful.

After a stint as Seattle Violoncello Society President (I was the only one to volunteer), I became an ICS slave. :)

Edited by: Tim Janof at: 1/5/01 7:46:22 pm

jekerry
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(1/6/01 12:37:24 pm)
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Hmmm . . . . Mine was a combination of things.
1. I realized I was old enough to no longer beat myself up for not being the BEST cello player in the world.
2. I moved to a new town and felt a little lonely.
3. Time to conquer those demonds that have haunted me from childhood. I wanted to a cellist but didn't have what it takes as a kid.
4. Got a dog -- I started training and showing my dog in obedience and had so much fun doing that I thought maybe the cello would be similiar.

So for me the cello wasn't new, it was something I loved as a kid and quit because I loved it too much to play it badly. As a kid I practiced constantly but wasn't really that good -- as an adult I don't practice much but I enjoy myself a lot. It's nice to be an adult -- it's easier then being a kid. I was too hard on myself as a kid. I wish I knew then what I know now. Sigh.

Jane

POWBOB
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(1/7/01 4:17:15 am)
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As much bad press as it gets, isn't maturity a wonderful thing?

Joe S
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(1/13/01 10:31:15 pm)
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Why the cello?
As you know I have played around with a lot of musical toys. I wanted to add a bowed instrument to my collection and was looking at the violin. Much cheaper to get into. But the violin position felt very ackward to me. ( It turns out that I was trying to turn my wrist to much.) Yo Yo was my first real exposure to the cello. ( You can decide if that was good or bad.) Then PT on NPR had "Quartetto Gellato" (Spelling?) on as thier guest artists. The cellist also played the guitar. I decided to add the cello. It is the hardest thing I have tryed to play. As hard as asking my girl friend out for the first time, two years after my divorce. But I had looked for both a long time and check them out a lot before laying my money down. No regrets on either but the cello is cheaper in the long run.
Still in Love, Joe S.

gmcarlmrnet
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(1/13/01 11:20:06 pm)
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starting cello
I started cello last year at age 42. I grew up in western Minnesota where we had bands but no orchestras so I played the coronet. I dropped everything until I was 30 then started the piano as a form of therapy. I play by ear and eventually got into composition and put out a CD two years ago. But I always wanted to play a string instrument. My daughter plays suzuki violin so I started a few months on the viola but had too much of a stiff neck so I switched to the cello. I've been taking lessons every three weeks for the last 6 months. I have to get my "fix" of playing every day. The cello just resonates with something deep in my soul. I have very limited experience listening to cello recordings but do remember when I was in college seeing the Paul Winter Concort and they had this cello player (who I believe was electrified) and he did things with it that really moved me. My goal is to play in our local orchestra which doesn't take beginners so I gotta keep practicing.


          New So where did this cello thing all start ....?-TerryM  -(12)-1/4/01 8:41:39 pm  
               New starting cello- gmcarlmrnet 1/13/01 11:20:06 pm  
               New Why the cello?-Joe S 1/13/01 10:31:15 pm  
               Re: So where did this cello thing all start ....?-jekerry 1/6/01 12:37:24 pm  
                    New Re: So where did this cello thing all start ....?-POWBOB 1/7/01 4:17:15 am  
               Re: So where did this cello thing all start ....?-Tim Janof 1/5/01 7:46:22 pm  
               Re: So where did this cello thing all start ....?-Nico67 1/5/01 1:20:04 pm  
               Re: So where did this cello thing all start ....?-bridge  1/5/01 12:24:14 pm  
               Re: So where did this cello thing all start ....?-ruthann 1/5/01 11:38:03 am  
               Re: So where did this cello thing all start ....?-Bobbie  1/5/01 10:53:14 am  
                My car was on autopilot...-Betsy C  1/5/01 8:29:38 am  
               Re: So where did this cello thing all start ....?-Dorie Straus  1/5/01 5:45:46 am  
               Re: So where did this cello thing all start ....?-DWThomas 1/4/01 11:33:21 pm  
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