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JanJan2
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(1/3/01 3:05:03 pm)
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Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!
So, I'm just curious about my fellow CBN-ers. How many times a week do YOU despair that you'll ever sound 1/2 as good as you want to? For me, it's about 10 or 12 times weekly. Hope things pick up for me soon. Boy do I hate these slumps!

Anybody have something inspiring to share that will light my fire again?

Janet www.nese.net

Betsy C 
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(1/3/01 3:10:44 pm)
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those slumps
Janet, this is just a 'slump' time of year in general for me. I am not in a bad mood, it's just the post-holiday letdown. I really did not buckle down at all from Thanksgiving on because like everybody else, I was really busy. This time of year always lends itself to new possibilities though, and I had a long talk with myself and realized that in a new year, a lot of things are possible! Who knows jsut how we both will progress this year? Maybe it will help to realize that you are better than you were a year ago at this time. Sometimes some introspection and retrospection help in gaining perspective. Sorry, I am not the wisest person, so no words of wisdom from me! Chin up, girlfriend!

Patricia2
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(1/3/01 3:47:45 pm)
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At least you're among friends!
Sorry, no words of wisdom from me, either -- just sympathy.

Last night I had one of those unsettling lessons:
the kind that comes after a week of good practice that you thought went really well, and then there you are in the lesson totally puzzled that the breakthroughs or whatever you thought you'd found have disappeared and you're making the same old tired sounds....

Yes, it was the kind of lesson that gets discussed here periodically --
(fairly recently, in fact, and whoever started the thread a few weeks ago just barely beat me to it) -- as in, how come good practice does not necessarily mean good lesson; and lack of practice does not automatically result in bad lesson.

If I hadn't read about it HERE, I know I would have felt really devasted -
because I always think things like: if only I weren't so lazy about practicing! How dare I show my face, after so poor a practice week!
and (therefore) Gee whiz, good thing I made more time this week, this is starting to sound better....But then the lesson seems to have nothing to do with anything -- how frustrating is that?! I want there to be keys to everything.

But because I DID read about it here, it was easier not to dwell on it....
and easier not to take it personally.


Anyway, I'm having more slump than anything else in my short cello life, Janet -- but I KNOW someone here will have inspiring words for you.

Meanwhile, my sympathy and best wishes!




Dorie Straus 
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(1/3/01 4:18:20 pm)
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Re: Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!
I don't know if this is a holiday slump either; it's just getting back in the saddle maybe. If this is your time of year to have a slump, perhaps it's because the holiday stuff was festive and familiar. The cello feels like back to work and sort of unfamiliar. Just speculating.

As for not sounding as good as you want to...who ever will? As you get better, your standards get higher. I guess there are places we reach that are satisfactory to us but then we automatically raise our expectations/standards, new things are difficult and the cycle begins again. These periods might not feel like slumps if we can somehow accept that learning anything comes (and goes) in waves - all these waves, though, peak at some higher level. (You can pretty much count on never going back to knowing nothing about a cello again in your life.) One of the things you can do - this has been suggested here many times - go back and play old things. You find out how far you've come and you get to gloat a little.

I say this like I've got this thinking mastered. I don't. I often have to remind myself when I started the cello, why I started and what I really want to do with this thing. Playing the cello over the past 10 years has moved around on my priority list - it still does. There were 3-4 years in these 10 years that I didn't play it at all; other times when I worked much harder on it than I do now. I have gotten upset during slumps and I probably will again. I think the best cure is a change of perspective and some self-forgiveness.

Btw. Got the string, Janet - thanks - I need those skinny ones.

Edited by: Dorie Straus  at: 1/3/01 4:18:20 pm

Bobbie 
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(1/3/01 8:07:45 pm)
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Re: Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!
Like everyone, I have my ups and downs. Right now I despair of ever having the vibrato that I want. I now have a good analogy for it, though- the Labrador tail wagging! My "new" 9 year old rescue Lab has provided new inspiration for vibrato practice. It's relaxed and easy and certainly responsive to her moods.

One trick is to compare yourself to someone else, but not to that prodigal kid that has the lesson before yours and plays rings around you- compare yourself to someone who doesn't play the cello at all. Look how much you've learned. I just started a friend on the cello and realized anew how incredible it is just to be able to play at all. If you don't believe me, put the bow in your left hand and try fingering with your right hand, and see how competent you are.

Here's a parable I just made up:

An amateur cellist has been talking about her gift of music, and how much it means to her, and then she plays for an audience. A critic listens, and, puzzled, says, "But you have no talent for this instrument at all." The cellist smiles, and says, "That's why being able to play it is such an incredible gift!"

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(1/4/01 1:04:28 am)
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Re: Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!
I feel this way often Janet. If you are working really hard and practicing every day and still feel this way, try taking a break for a day or two. I know, I know...<shudder> stop practicing? I already sound bad! Well, I've learned that it actually helps to stop. You'll relax a bit and come back with a fresh perspective. You'll give any bad habits that have been creeping up into your playing a chance to fade.

It probably won't sound worse.

Give it a try....take a break! :)


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me4cello
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(1/4/01 8:25:59 am)
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it's a journey...
I feel for you. Go easy on yourself, remember you are doing this for fun - difficult isn't it, some of us care so much about playing, but have deep seated misgivings about whether we will ever be able to do it. I somewhow expect to sound bad and expect to make mistakes and that gets to be a self-fulfilling prophecy - it's the dream of being a good cellist that keeps me going rather than the expectation!!! I have decided that this year I will have a positive attitude and will keep an open mind when practising- I'm even going to practice a "hey! so what" type shoulder shrug for when it doesn't sound perfect!!! Enjoy the journey...

Ellen G 
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(1/4/01 8:35:33 am)
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Me, too. Only I'm not thinking about whether I will ever play as well as I hope to. I'm more concerned that I'm not playing as well now as I did a year ago. I was playing with a quartet whose style of playing I didn't appreciate necessarily, but I was challenged and practiced my tail off so I wouldn't be the one that fell off. Actually, for this group, I'd say I overpracticed. But that's me. Then I hooked up with another quartet, which I was thrilled to be asked to join. The players are more my age, our personalities fit better. The problem is Haydn and Mozart went out the window because of gigs. Ugh! We spent more time on those bleepity-bleep wedding books. I am not a horn, and I don't want to play Hornpipe. I hated every note in Pachelbel. Then came the Christmas gigs. Ugh! I am hopeful that now we will actually play string quartet music, for real, and I can try to return to where I was. Where was that, anyway???

My only other thought is something I mentioned a long time ago, but I think it's still relevant. When I engage in a recreational activity, it generally has a season. Gardening, skiing, swimming. I like it when it's time for that activity to start, but I also like when it ends. Cyclical. Cello is forever. Taking a break means guilt, backsliding, rather than feeling I can put the cello away for a little while and then taking it out like the trowel or inflatable lounge with drink cup holder. Sometimes I wish it DID have a season. Or perhaps that's why these Brandenburg play-ins are such a neat idea because it forces you into a setting while is probably incredibly enjoyable and rejuvenating. Whatever.

JanJan2
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(1/4/01 11:42:19 am)
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You never know where help's going to come from!
First - thanks to you ALL for your words of encouragement. I'm at work, and just stumbled upon something I must share with you all. As some of you know, I'm a catalog copywriter for a mail-order distributor of Christian books and gifts. Well, I have to write on a book called "Contemporary Illustrations for Preachers, Teachers & Writers." So I'm flipping through to get a feel for the book, and this is what I found.

PERSISTENCE

Even the most talented people may not get it the first time.

In a 1995 interview ex-Beatle Paul McCartney said he once wrote a song with the first line "Scrambled eggs, oh my baby how I love your legs."

Have you ever heard that song? Not likely. McCartney tossed those words and wrote, "Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away." Since then "Yesterday" has played on the radio more than six million times, more than any other record in history. "Yesterday" also happens to be McCartney's favorite song.

The difference between failure and success---between "Scrambled Eggs" and "Yesterday"---is persistence.
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Hangin' in there,

Janet www.nese.net

MaryK 
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(1/4/01 3:50:01 pm)
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Re: Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!
"An amateur cellist has been talking about her gift of music, and how much it
means to her, and then she plays for an audience. A critic listens, and, puzzled,
says, "But you have no talent for this instrument at all." The cellist smiles, and
says, "That's why being able to play it is such an incredible gift!"

Wow, what a great parable, Bobbie, thanks for sharing! That just about says it all for me!

MaryK


          Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!-JanJan2-(9)-1/3/01 3:05:03 pm  
               You never know where help's going to come from!-JanJan2 1/4/01 11:42:19 am  
               Re: Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!-Ellen G  1/4/01 8:35:33 am  
               Re: Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  1/4/01 1:04:28 am  
                    it's a journey...-me4cello 1/4/01 8:25:59 am  
               Re: Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!-Bobbie  1/3/01 8:07:45 pm  
                    Re: Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!-MaryK  1/4/01 3:50:01 pm  
               Re: Post-holiday slump . . . ugghhh!-Dorie Straus  1/3/01 4:18:20 pm  
               At least you're among friends!-Patricia2 1/3/01 3:47:45 pm  
               those slumps-Betsy C  1/3/01 3:10:44 pm  
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