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karenlee 
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(1/5/01 8:06:36 am)
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string saddle
There is a little leather "saddle" on the bridge, under the D string. For some reason the little "saddle" has shifted over towards the A string, and the D string now rests on the right edge, instead of the middle, of this tiny "saddle."
I don't know what the purpose of this little leather strip is. Should I take it off? Or peel it off and reglue it? Using what kind of adhesive? (There is 40" of snow outside and I don't want to go downtown for this seemingly minor matter.) Just want to get the string back in the saddle again. What's the deal? thank you in advance for your kind help.

TerryM 
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(1/5/01 10:34:33 am)
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Re: string saddle
The piece of material under the string is probably parchment. It is put there to prevent the string from cutting into the bridge over time. It also helps the string to slide better when tuning, thus preventing the bridge being pulled forward as much. There should be one on the A string as well. It would be best to glue it back on. I think that there is some special kind of glue that is used for this, but I am not sure what it is called. Perhaps others on this board will know.

Terry

Andrew Victor
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(1/5/01 10:46:35 am)
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"Bridge protectors"
I had tried long and hard to find these things. I think they are called "bridge protectors." In any event, I found them on-line at http://www.quinnviolins.com/ in a number of sizes and thicknesses for vln/vla and for cello.

Andy

Edited by: Andrew Victor at: 1/5/01 10:46:35 am

ruthann
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(1/5/01 11:55:59 am)
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Thanks, Andy, I just ordered some.

cello_suttonr@hotmail.com

Andrew Victor
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(1/7/01 10:53:43 am)
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Ruthann, so did I.Here's how I install them.
I have used the superglue called "Krazy Glue for wood". I grab the bridge protector at one end with a hemostat clamp (those fine-tipped needle-nose, tweezer-like gizmos that have scissor-like finger loops) They sell some fairly large ones at Rennaisance Hardware, but I use a smaller one - for vln/vla - the bigger one is OK for cello. One could use tweezers or forceps but then the chance of dropping the protector with glue on it is greater.

I put a drop of glue on one side of the protector, and then I touch it to one side of the bridge, below the groove so I can get some glue on the spot that will touch the protector where it has no glue because it is held there by the clamp. Then I reverse the direction of the bridge (or protector) lay the middle of the protector over the bridge groove, press down the glued side with a finger that continues to hold it in place while I release the clamp and push down the other side. It should dry in place in less than a minute and be ready to tighten the string up shortly afterward (10 minutes or so to be safe).

I've done this on 2 cellos, 2 violas and 4 violins (at least) and I'm waiting for a new delivery from Quinn so I can do it to Woods violin #54. I have done this with the bridge on the instrument, although I lay a cloth on the top to protect the finish - although the glue is viscous and has never dripped (and be sure the string that will go there is out of the way - you don't want glue on it either). The glue dries fast, so you have to have all your motions planned in advance - you could practice without glue first. I've also done a few spare bridges off the instrument. It seems to work well either way.

Andy

Patricia2
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(1/8/01 6:08:50 pm)
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I ordered some, too -- but have a question...
...of course.

Thanks so much, Andy, for your details.

Is it necessary to glue these things on? Would they just not stay in place otherwise?

And do you still rub a pencil over it?

Would it be medium thickness for cello? I was so eager when I read this, I just impulsively ordered a few thicknesses, they were cheap enough.

I'm just curious -- if this is parchment, is it similar to the parchment paper used in cooking?

Todd French 
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(1/9/01 1:44:45 am)
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Re: I ordered some, too -- but have a question...
The parchment is becoming more and more in use - it used to be goat hide, which is also available but a bit harder to find.

Any thickness will do, but the thicker it is, the more sound it may dampen, so if you have a bright string, go ahead with the thicker parchment. If you like the sound, go as thin as you can.

I recommend using animal hide glue in the liquid (rather than crystal) form. The advantages include: it doesn't glue your fingers to the parchment (or you don't have to use a special tool), and it actually absorbs a bit into the parchment allowing it to be more malleable and form-fitting to the bridge.

Once glued in place, make sure you hold it with both fingers until the glue starts to take. Take a butter knife or something similar and, before the glue dries, make a string guide where it already exists in the bridge. Just press down, don't cut it or it defeats the purpose. Once you start one, the string will dig in deeper, but you do have to start it.

Barb2 
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(1/9/01 11:09:32 pm)
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Re: "Bridge protectors"
When I had my cello in to have the sound post adjusted last summer I asked for parchment under the A string, and that's what went on the work order. But - I wish I had asked why -he put a Teflon protector on instead. Does anyone know anything about these?

Just curious,
Barb

karenlee 
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(1/12/01 7:31:28 am)
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installing a bridge protector
Thank you all for your amazing replies. I have no confidence in my skills in microsurgery--cello and I will be going downtown Monday. For about 4 years I have been reading the boards; I never cease to be amazed at this community. KLK
P.S. Where's MOM been?


          New string saddle-karenlee  -(8)-1/5/01 8:06:36 am  
               New I ordered some, too -- but have a question...-Patricia2 1/8/01 6:08:50 pm  
                    New Re: I ordered some, too -- but have a question...-Todd French  1/9/01 1:44:45 am  
               Re: string saddle-TerryM  1/5/01 10:34:33 am  
                    "Bridge protectors"-Andrew Victor 1/5/01 10:46:35 am  
                         New Re: "Bridge protectors"-Barb2  1/9/01 11:09:32 pm  
                         Thanks, Andy, I just ordered some.-ruthann-NT 1/5/01 11:55:59 am  
                              New Ruthann, so did I.Here's how I install them.-Andrew Victor 1/7/01 10:53:43 am  
                                   New installing a bridge protector-karenlee  1/12/01 7:31:28 am  
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