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FrozenYankee
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(1/15/01 11:06:38 am)
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Glasser graphite bows
Does anyone use a Glasser graphite-composite bow. I'm referring to the one that sells for around $250 at Shar or SW Strings.

I'd love to be able to afford a Coda Classic, but not this year. I'm hoping the Glasser will be a reasonable compromise. I'd like your opinions please.

Thanks very much.
Richard

lblake 
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(1/16/01 11:43:50 am)
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I did a lot of carbon-fiber bow shopping, and in my opinion, that is an excellent compromise. I think that's a really amazing bow for the price.

When you are ready, however, to get one in the next price range, I'd suggest being sure to thoroughly try some of the different kinds... because there are a few out there now, and they really do have very significant differences. Andrew Victor has a web page of bow reviews. I don't know where it is at the moment - I'm not on my own computer. Anyway... it'll probably show up at some point in this thread. :) My preference (as anyone who's heard from me knows) is the Arcus.

Good luck - bow shopping is fun! (not to mention addictive!!! ahem, Mr. Victor...)

ruthann
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(1/16/01 12:48:57 pm)
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And for some better prices, check out www.cellos2go.com

cello_suttonr@hotmail.com

Andrew Victor
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(1/16/01 1:05:38 pm)
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Yes, indeed, Laura. (It was great to meet you (for the first time) yesterday.) But give me a break, I've got three cello cases, and each one holds two bows.

Laura is the one who led me to the Arcus brand of bows. My bow review focussed on violin bows and is at members.aol.com/bowedstri...eview.html . All of the Arcus bows seem easier to use than other bows, they are lighter in weight, and draw fine clean sound. But the do range in price from about 4 to 6 times higher than the Glasser CF.

What it really gets down to is how your cello sound responds to the lower price bows. They handle quite well, not just the Glasser Carbon Fiber (graphite) but also the very similar, but more expensve CF Durro, and the less expensive (brown colored) "Glasser Composite."

I have found the Coda Classic will sound more resonantly on some cellos - but it is often a difficulty with the instrument that the Coda or some other more expensive bow pulls you through. If you get the response sound you want with a less expensive bow, that is the way to go at this time.

There is another factor in "motor response" of a bow in very rapid articulated passages that one tends to not find below about $4,000 - $5,000 in a cello bow. certainly, I've not found this in any of the composite cello bows - and not in that many pernambuco ones either.

The performance of a bow on your cello will also depend on whether you get good response from your strings. Your preferences may change as your technique improves. I've found no cello strings that are more responsive than the new Thomastik Belcanto Gold - and this can affect what bow is adequate for you.

Sometimes it takes some period of playing on a utile bow, such as the Glassers or Durro to help one gain the technique that will then make a more costly bow worthwhile. This will not be wasted money.

Andy

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Dick500
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(1/16/01 1:09:20 pm)
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In the course of handling and selling bows, I have found that the Glasser Carbon/Graphite bows play remarkably well for the money. One important thing to remember, however, is that every bow (including carbon fiber bows) has its own personality and will play differently from every other bow regardless of similarity of source, materials, etc. Plus, the results can and do vary from instrument to instrument. Factors which I have not been able to directly correlate with the compatibility of an instrument and a bow include such variables as weight, balance, stick shape, and source of the hair. A bow which plays well on cello #1 may not play well on cello #2. The fact that it happened to be, for example, heavy/medium balance/octagonal/mongolian hair neither made it play well on cello #1 nor badly on cello #2. Therefore, neither purchasing a bow sight unseen on your friend's recommendation nor borrowing your friend's bow to see how it does on your cello will accurately predict how another of "same" will play for you. Where does all this leave one? Well, if you intend to purchase an expensive bow, try before you buy. If you intend to purchase a relatively inexpensive bow, the differences between them are, in practice, usually much less than between more expensive bows and you can quite often successfully just plunk down your money and take the next one that comes out of the tube. So what does all this have to do with the Glassers? As I said above, they are very good for the money and, if $250 is your current budget, you can't really go wrong ordering one for the time being. For later, though, remember the other stuff.

Dick Mattson


          New Glasser graphite bows-FrozenYankee-(4)-1/15/01 11:06:38 am  
               New Re: Glasser graphite bows-ruthann 1/16/01 12:48:57 pm  
               New Re: Glasser graphite bows-lblake  1/16/01 11:43:50 am  
                    New Re: Glasser graphite bows-Dick500 1/16/01 1:09:20 pm  
                    New Re: Glasser graphite bows-Andrew Victor 1/16/01 1:05:38 pm  
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