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MaryK 
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(1/3/01 4:47:57 pm)
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Where Does Bow Hair Come From????
Horses, yeah, and the little horses come from...

What breed of horses?? Are they bred especially for their tail hair?? Are there tail hair horse ranches, I mean, does anybody keep horses just to provide bow hair? How do they cut it off the horse, i.e., in a straight line, or?? How much bow hair per horse tail??? They must bleach the hair after it's cut off the horse, eh?

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MaryK

Patricia2
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(1/3/01 9:00:14 pm)
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Re: Where Does Bow Hair Come From????
Hi MaryK,
I was very curious about all this, too -
I think it was a recent post about sites of interest, from - Terry?
that led me to find a slew of information, just can't remember which site led to what.

Just a bit of what I remember:

Apparently the hair is a "by-product" from the slaughterhouse; in fact bow makers used to be located near the abattoirs.
(This is disturbing. I guess I'd hoped they could just get a trim now and then, like going to the salon....)
The best (strongest) hair comes from northern climates - Siberian supposedly tops.
I've read different opinions on male vs female hair: mares' tails get sprayed with urine, which renders it less valuable according to some, but one account said this makes it take rosin better and makes for a grippier bow.

Bleaching apparently weakens the hair, & is only done for cheap bows.
Naturally white hair is thought to be the finest, best for violin/viola.
Black hair is coarser -- prefered by some cellists & bassists, so I read.
Cellists & bass players may use combo white & dark hair. (I don't know, this is what I read!)

I seem to remember reading about bow hair from some of the shop sites, like maybe Johnson's?

Anyway, I hope I'm not misinforming --
Surely you will get more knowledgeable responses.

MaryK 
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(1/3/01 9:03:15 pm)
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Thanks, Patricia!

TerryM 
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(1/3/01 9:58:59 pm)
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Re: Where Does Bow Hair Come From????
Patricia covered it pretty well, but if you want more information follow this link to Johnson Strings you will find an article on horsehair and rehairing bows as well.

www.johnson-inst.com/horse.htm

Terry

Edited by: TerryM  at: 1/3/01 9:58:59 pm

MaryK 
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(1/4/01 3:51:36 pm)
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Tx, Terry, will bookmark/print this out!

Cambiata
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(1/5/01 12:03:58 am)
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I Hate To Tell You This, But...
... They kill the horses after removing their tails, because they take the whole thing, not just the hairs/ personally, I can't wait until an accepatable, high-quality synthetic replacement is developed and comes into common usage.

Patricia2
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(1/5/01 6:39:36 pm)
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How disturbing...
Are you sure??

Meanwhile, have you heard of anyone seriously working on a good substitute?

Steve Drake
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(1/5/01 8:00:54 pm)
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Re: I Hate To Tell You This, But...
I heard that this is a popular urban legend, but not true, from a hair supplier. Not sure if it's true, but it would be common sense that the horses aren't killed in the process of getting their tailhair. There aren't that many horses in the world, and the demand for horsehair has skyrocketted in recent years.

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Cambiata
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(1/7/01 5:11:51 pm)
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Re: I Hate To Tell You This, But...
My Mom is an avid horseperson and has seen numerous articels about thsi practice. What IS a myth is the idea that the bow hair is a "byproduct" of horses destined for the slaughterhouse anyway. Thsi is because it's not just any tail hair that is used - we all know that there are different qualities. It may be that the rest of the horses' bodies are used for other things, but they are killed for their tales (as I said before, this is because the entire tail is removed, not just the hair - it doesn't grow back after that.

Steve Drake
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(1/7/01 11:29:46 pm)
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Re: I Hate To Tell You This, But...
Ok, we have apparently contrary stories. Can you back up your theory with details - I.E. slaughterhouse address and phone numbers? I'll work on the other end - the more positive side of things, hopefully.

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JanJan2
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(1/8/01 7:23:58 am)
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Wasn't there a Strings article on this recently?
Well, within the last year, at least. I'm going to look through old copies.

Janet www.nese.net


          New Where Does Bow Hair Come From????-MaryK  -(10)-1/3/01 4:47:57 pm  
               New Wasn't there a Strings article on this recently?-JanJan2 1/8/01 7:23:58 am  
               I Hate To Tell You This, But...-Cambiata 1/5/01 12:03:58 am  
                    Re: I Hate To Tell You This, But...-Steve Drake 1/5/01 8:00:54 pm  
                         New Re: I Hate To Tell You This, But...-Cambiata 1/7/01 5:11:51 pm  
                              New Re: I Hate To Tell You This, But...-Steve Drake 1/7/01 11:29:46 pm  
                    How disturbing...-Patricia2 1/5/01 6:39:36 pm  
               Re: Where Does Bow Hair Come From????-TerryM  1/3/01 9:58:59 pm  
                    Tx, Terry, will bookmark/print this out!-MaryK  -NT 1/4/01 3:51:36 pm  
               Re: Where Does Bow Hair Come From????-Patricia2 1/3/01 9:00:14 pm  
                    Thanks, Patricia!-MaryK  -NT 1/3/01 9:03:15 pm  
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