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Stefan79
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(2/6/01 9:23:52 am)
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Recital and Piazzolla Tango

I was just rehearsing the Saint-Saëns sonata #1 with a pianist. We're doing two recitals in April/May and we need to come up with something to play. We have decided on doing Saint-Saëns sonata #1, Le Grand Tango and Brahms e minor. I feel that I would like to have a brake in the middle of the concert and then we would have to add something. The piece we're thinking of are the sonatas of Rachmaninoff, Strauss, Grieg, Barber or Chopin, but we can't decide what to play. What would you play?

And, in the Piazzolla, I know that some of you have played it. What spots do you think was the hardest ones? I think it's the doulbe stops at 25 (Edizioni Bèrben), the doulbe stops at 54 and before 95. The Giocoso part at 217 and pretty much from the third bar after 255 to the end. I haven't had a chance to have a look at it with my cello yet.

Thanks!

- Stefan

zambocello
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(2/6/01 1:03:00 pm)
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sonatas and tango
Are you thinking of doing 3 big sonatas plus the tango? That would be a big program.

For me, the hardest things about the tango are balance and the octaves in the last section, especially to jump up the 4th at the beginning of each phrase. Slippery intonation! Balance is also a tricky thing in this piece. IMHO, the character of the piece needs a sultry, suave cello sound, something I lose if I push the sound much. But the piano part is so thick that balance is difficult. Your pianist really has to be good at voicing down the less important layers of the piano part.

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(2/7/01 6:05:36 pm)
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Re: Recital and Piazzolla Tango
Stefan,

This is a HUGE program you are going to play. If you have the strength to do it, great! More power to you!

Rachmaninoff is pretty easy for the cello, but considering all that your poor pianist will have to play, this will be the 2X4 that breaks the camel's back! You should definitely consult with your pianist or get a second pianist. Rach, Strauss, Grieg, Chopin and Barber all have very heavy piano parts. Saint Saens Sonata #1 and Brahms E minor aren't simply playing alberti bass accompaniment either.

I really love the Saint Saens Cello Sonatas. I ahve the music for them both. Somehow the 1st sonata reminds me of Beethoven.

If you must pick another sonata to fill up this program, I'd go with Rachmaninoff (if your pianist is up to it). It's really rewarding (easy on the cellist) with all those beautiful themes you get to play while the pianist is playing like a madman!

But like the Chopin, it's a very long sonata (if you take the repeats). BTW, Kates showed me a neat page turning trick for the Scherzo. If you get to play it, let me know and I'll tell you about it.


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Stefan79
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(2/8/01 2:54:29 am)
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Rachmaninoff

The pianist has played Brahms e minor for like...15 years or so...:) He works as an accompanist at my school. We did Saint-Saëns before Christmas, but just for a couple of master classes (we have lessons in master class form with my teacher every week).

We're playing Rach next week, on Tuesday, just to see if we can handle it. I know he played it in some lessons and master classes before Christmas, so he probably knows what he's doing...:) Isn't it like 50 minutes or so, it's very big - in every way.

I really don't like the Chopin sonata, maybe I haven't had the time to sit down and really listen to it yet, but I just don't understand it...

I'm a bit curious about Barber, I've only heard it once. Last year, a cellist at my school played it, I heard a tape of it and I really, really liked it! I'll probably go to the library today and see if they have any recordings of it.

I thought we could start with Saint-Saëns and then do Brahms before the break. After the break we would do a sonata and then the Piazzolla. If I get to do an encore I'll probably play Piatti No. 2.

You don't know any neat page turning tricks for Schostakovich, Quartet No. 8 in C minor, the second movement? It's hopeless, you have to turn the page and be ready to play again in like 1-2 seconds...:eek

I went to a recital with my teacher and one of the piano teachers from the school this Tuesday. They played Beethoven C major, Britten sonata and Strauss. It was sooo great! :) I'm really impressed by them! They played on Monday and Tuesday, five sonatas in two days...wow...on Monday they did Mendelssohn D major, Britten and Rachmaninoff and on Tuesday they played Beetoven, Britten and Strauss...:eek


- Stefan


          Recital and Piazzolla Tango-Stefan79-(3)-2/6/01 9:23:52 am  
               Re: Recital and Piazzolla Tango-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  2/7/01 6:05:36 pm  
                    Rachmaninoff-Stefan79 2/8/01 2:54:29 am  
               sonatas and tango-zambocello 2/6/01 1:03:00 pm  
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