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Laura Wichers
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(2/6/01 4:44:52 pm)
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Quartet rehearsals...
My quartet has 3x/wk two hour rehearsals, and while we are usually *fairly* productive, sometimes it is difficult to decide what to work on, how to work on it, and stay focused the whole time. Any suggestions for string quartet ensemble exercises and rehearsal techniques? We've started to record ourselves (with mind-boggling, eye-opening revelations following); that's about the extent of our rehearsal exercises.

We're playing Beethoven Op 18 No 4, in case you're interested.


Laura, Spaz Cellist

Steve Drake
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(2/6/01 11:38:56 pm)
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Re: Quartet rehearsals...
In every quartet I've been in that has had the luxury to rehearse, chat time was the most important thing, with actual rehearsing taking a definite second place. So if you have 3 times a week, at 2 hours each, you should expect to get about 2 hours of actual practice time per week. It'll seem like that, anyway, even if you actually get more practice time. I wouldn't worry about ensemble execises and such - just try to get your repertoire covered if you can. Just remember that you all need to be open with each other about problems - you should be able to bug the violist about being late in a certain passage, and you need to be able to take the same kind of criticism. The usual stuff - focus on problem passages, try to find the problems. And don't forget the non-musical stuff - stage deportment, clothes, entrances, bows, exits - these are important too.

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zambocello
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(2/7/01 1:13:56 am)
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Quartets
Isn't it amazing how little can get done at a rehearsal? Long ago (in a land far, far away?) I played in a quartet as part of my duties with my regional orchestra. It was not unusual for us to not even get our instruments out at "rehearsal!"

Stefan79
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(2/7/01 3:27:23 am)
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Re: Quartet rehearsals...
We rehearse about 2x/wk for three hours every time. I think it's difficult to think of something to work on all the time. I guess it's because we don't get as many chamber music lessons as we should... Well, you just reach a point where you have absolutely no idea of what to do. We have been playing since October last year and we've only had two lessons (!). We're having our third lesson tomorrow...playing Schostakovich #8.
Recording the quartet must be great. Of course, nobody in the quartet have anything to record ourselves with...:(
We have decided to start working really hard on intonation in the ensemble. I guess it was that lesson on Haydn (g minor, op 74) that made us want to do that... :) Have you ever played a fast Haydn movement in a slow tempo? It's sooo hard to get a good intonation! One of the teachers at our school said that he would come to our rehearsal today and give us some exercises. I'll tell you more about it later. Du you have any good intonation exercises for the quartet?

- Stefan

sarah schenkman
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(2/7/01 5:41:25 pm)
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Re: Quartet rehearsals...
Have a good idea of what you want to do and make everyone else listen to you! What do you think it is- a democracy?
Just kidding, Laura

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(2/7/01 5:49:14 pm)
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Ice Cream!
Team building is very important in any setting (ensemble or corporate). Never forget that your greatest asset is your personnel! Team morale is very important.

So once in a while go out and get some COLDSTONE icecream together and do some really goofy NON-musical things (if you can find the time).

You probably already know all the musical things you need to do (and I'm glad you've adopted my mantra 'musician, record thyself!') I feel that if an ensemble has very good communication (non-musical) and trust, personally, it can only help them when they work on music. It's a lot better making music with beloved friends than with strangers (unless the strangers are MUCH better players, but it would still be different).


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Corrina Connor
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(2/7/01 6:13:02 pm)
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playing with friends, or not
I must say that playing in any chamber music session with people whose mutual hatred of each other is the only thing shared in the group is VERY productive. You arrive, instruments out, 'from bar 63', 'OK', play, 'again', 'OK'...
the hours just fly buy.

When on the odd occasion I play with people that I like, the tea break takes about 40 minutes, while we all discuss what kind of "Old Ma's Cookies" we like best, then the exact percentage of milk in the tea.....then we play....then we need to visit the bathroom, then we gossip about the interesting conversation we over heard in the changing room at the Town Hall, then we play a bit more.....

We do have a great time though. I'm not sure whether the friendly approach is better than the 'Oh, here we are again approach'.

On a more serious note (B## maybe?), a beneficial excerise is play only two parts at a time, i.e.:
Vln 1 & Vln 2
Vln 1 & Viola
Vln 1 & Cello
Vln 2 & Viola
Vln 2 & Cello
Viola & Cello.

That way the other players can do serious listening, and it helps to fit tricky parts together very well. Also, this way you can use a metrenome, if necesary, and be able to hear the clunk. The listeners can mark the score if they want......

Another fun thing is to play the piece once pp, then the next time FF, or 3 people playing pp and one playing FF.

The advantage of this type of rehearsal is that it goes really fast! Then, TIME FOR ICECREAM!

CORRINA

I should add the disclaimer that I can't abide chamber music -I don't like the kind of person which I become when I'm playing it.

Laura Wichers
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(2/7/01 10:35:28 pm)
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Re: Lasagna!
We're planning on getting together next weekend for a lasagna-making fest. Yum.


Laura


          Quartet rehearsals...-Laura Wichers-(7)-2/6/01 4:44:52 pm  
               Ice Cream!-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  2/7/01 5:49:14 pm  
                    Re: Lasagna!-Laura Wichers 2/7/01 10:35:28 pm  
               Re: Quartet rehearsals...-sarah schenkman 2/7/01 5:41:25 pm  
               Re: Quartet rehearsals...-Stefan79 2/7/01 3:27:23 am  
               Quartets-zambocello 2/7/01 1:13:56 am  
                    playing with friends, or not-Corrina Connor 2/7/01 6:13:02 pm  
               Re: Quartet rehearsals...-Steve Drake 2/6/01 11:38:56 pm  
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