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Stefan79
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(2/4/01 8:34:11 am)
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Piatti,
op 25
Is there any recordings of the
Piatti Caprices, op 25? I mean, the Piatti caprices are the Paganini
caprices of the cello and violinist record Paganini all the time.
This is quite interesting actually, why don't we hear the Piatti
caprices in recitals and things like that?
- Stefan
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ekifri
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(2/4/01 1:09:18 pm)
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Piatti, op 25
Starker has recorded some of them on
his 'Road to Cello Playing' cd.
Along with some Popper and
various other etudes, and a few other things.
It's a cd well
worth having.
-eva
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Stefan79
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(2/4/01 1:55:23 pm)
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Piatti, op 25
Well, Starker is not one of my
favorite players, but it sounds like a cd one should have. Do you
have the label and the number of the recording so I can order it at
the record shop?
I still think that more people should play them
as encores at concerts and stuff like that. I think I'll play No. 3
if I get to do an encore after my Saint-Saëns in May.
Stefan
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ekifri
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(2/4/01 2:21:17 pm)
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Piatti, op 25
It's on Parnassus (label) and
available from Amazon.com
I can get the specifics on Monday (the
cd is at my office)
if no one has already.
It is in an earlier
thread here on CC -possible a Popper thread begun by MaryK or Dorie
Strauss.
Without getting into a war over Starker vs. all the
rest, I would tell you that Starker is one of my favourite players
for many things and isn't for many others.
His Brahms sonatas are
wonderful, his bach exquisite and his Italian Sonatas cd (including
the Locatelli) is also.
I can't think of anyone who has done
these things better.
At the same time i don't particularly like
his Chopin and some other things. Slava's Tchaik is my favourite and
so on.I haven't yet found a player who fits for all things, and
sincerely hope that I never will.
Oh, and yes- do play it as
an encore. That's a great idea!
-eva
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Stefan79
Registered User
(2/4/01 2:54:18 pm)
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Starker
In Mr. Starker's defense, I should
say that I haven't heard that much of him. The three CDs I have with
him are: Brahms (sonatas), Beethoven (sonatas) and Haydn C and
Schostakovich #1 with some festival orchestra. I haven't had the
time to listen to the Brahms that much, in one of the Beethoven
sonatas the pianist plays the wrong chord... I really
don't like his playing in Haydn C and Schostakovich #1...but what
you said is very true, I haven't heard one cellist that's good at
playing all things.
My last teacher studied with him, so you
could say that I'm his 'grandchild' cello-wise.  I've also
discovered that I'm related to Aldo Parisot, Piatigorgsky, Fournier
and Tortelier in the same way... They
were the teachers of my teachers.
- Stefan
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ekifri
Registered User
(2/5/01 12:42:56 pm)
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The
Road to Cello Playing
PACD 97-008
on parnassus
label
Etudes by Lee,
Schroder,Dotzauer,Duport,Piatti,Popper,Grutzmacher, Paganini
plus
modern concert pieces: Hindemith, Heiden, and
Cassado
-eva
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David
Sanders 
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(2/5/01 2:56:30 pm)
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Starker
>in one of the Beethoven sonatas
the pianist plays the wrong chord....
I'd really like to know
which sonata and where. It seems unlikely that something like that
would have been left in a recording.
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drcello
Registered User
(2/7/01 3:12:33 pm)
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Piatti
was a nifty fellow...
Edited by: drcello
at: 2/7/01 3:12:33 pm
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justinkagan1
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(2/5/01 11:25:12 pm)
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Starker
David: There are also a few mishaps
on the Cassado Suite recording on The Road...a couple of opinions
have it that he probably just sat down and winged it from memory,
sans too much concern, 'tho it's surprising all the same. My feeling
is that the Road To is Starker's most musical recording; not that
I've heard all of them by any stretch, but have been surprised by
what some of his supporters have considered "musical". He really
makes the etudes interesting; I try to get my young students to
listen to these!
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David
Sanders
Registered User
(2/6/01 2:14:50 am)
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Starker
I think that his old recording of
the Italian sonatas (Boccherini, Locatelli, Valentini, etc.), and
the newer one of the 20 (?) Popper pieces are sensational
recordings. Then there's the Kodaly.
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Stefan79
Registered User
(2/6/01 5:07:39 am)
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Beethoven
Well, I'm not sure, I'll have to
check it when I get home, but I think it's in the slow beginning of
the G minor. Or it could be in the D major...
-
Stefan
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MarcGe
Registered User
(2/7/01 12:53:16 pm)
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Piatti, op 25
A french cellist recorded them all
quite recently, as well as the Op. 25 ("Caprice sur un thème de la
Niobe de Pacini"). Wonderful record!
The guy is called Raphaël
Chrétien, label is Daphénéo, Nr. 9704 (recorded 1997)
You will
find it easily on www.fnac.com, they ship to everywhere in the
world. Just search for the above cellist name (I'm not sure their
website is trandlated in english).
Marc
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JVelsey
Registered User
(2/7/01 3:03:42 pm)
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Piatti, op 25
You might also look for a recording
of the Piatti by Erling Blondahl Bengtsson (I hope I spelled his
name correctly!). Though I haven't heard it, I would say it's worth
getting, since I've heard many wonderful things about him as a
performer and teacher. And it is the complete Op. 25; Starker's
recording only has four of them.
What great pieces! I'm
learning them this year for the first time after years of shying
away from the more difficult etudes.
Jonathan
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Stefan79
Registered User
(2/8/01 3:00:52 am)
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Erling
has recorded them?!
I had no idea that Erling had made a
recording if the caprices! I just HAVE to get the cd! I just might
be going to a master class with him in Oslo this summer. My two last
teachers studied with him. You know, he was the one that started the
Swedish/Scandinavian cello culture that we see today.
-
Stefan
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DanK
Registered User
(2/8/01 9:38:39 am)
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Erling
Bengstton
I was just going to suggest this
recording, but it would seem I have been beaten to it. I have not
heard it, but he is an amazing cellist, and I have been told that he
plays all the caprices excellently, so I would assume this is a
great recording. I think they have it at shar.
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