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celloadgc
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(1/25/01 9:20:47 pm)
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Cossman Torture Exercises
This is the first time I have posted on this board! I'm a student at Valparaiso University in Indiana. Today at my lesson I had the pleasure, or should I say the pain of starting Cossman's exercises for finger strength and agility. Have any of you had to try them yet? My teacher gave them to me with the rule that they would help get my fingers in shape, as long as I don't hurt myself with them. Sounds like a good plan to me! :) Does anyone have any tips on these? Or any horror stories about them? Just curious.

Andy

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(1/26/01 9:58:49 am)
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Andy,
They really aren't so bad..... just remember to take it easy at first just like you would with the Starker exercises. I think the Cossman helped me out quite a bit. Have fun.
--Mike

Christopher Chan
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(1/27/01 11:35:39 pm)
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Re: Cossman Torture Exercises
Cossman excercises are awesome. My teacher started me off pretty early on Cossman. It's been part of my daily routine eversince i was introduced to them.

First of all you never want to play with pain, just ask Mr. Sazer. The trick is that you must be completely relaxed when you play and your fingers should not be flapping up and down really high. You want your fingers to barely lift off the fingerboard, you want them to flutter. Speed and agility comes easily when you have mastered this. Remember to periodically check your intonation as well, you never want to be playing "just notes".

Hope this helps.

Cellochick 
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(1/28/01 12:47:41 am)
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They won't bite...hard
Seriously, I love these! They appeal to the logical, methodical scientific part of my brain (which I have otherwise learned to shut off). They just...make sense, I guess. I'm one of those sick people who actually ENJOY exercises and etudes, etc. Don't hit me!

Corrina Connor
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(2/3/01 2:33:29 am)
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The 'flutter'
But don't your fingers still have to land with some force, while remaining relaxed? Otherwise no strength is achieved.

I started doing them very very slowly, playing every note with focus on the left fingers and intonation. According to my teacher flutter is the wrong word. The analogy which we worked out was as if the distance from string to fingerboard was full of quite solid jelly(!) and one had to touch the 'bottom of the bowl', which required weight and an audible 'plop'.

Of course, using force won't work either. I found in the beginning it was worthwhile to 'bounce' my fingers a tiny bit harder to learn the sensation.

My main tip would be to make sure that you hear your finger hitting the fingerboard.

Victor Sazer
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(2/3/01 5:35:42 pm)
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Cossman Torture Exercises???
In my experience, I have found the Cossman studies helpful for some students, dangerous for some and a complete waste of time for others. Whenever I have suggested them, the first thing I do is cross out the word strength. If they help purity of intonation, agility, etc. it is fine but working for finger strength is an illusion.

There are no muscles in our fingers. If you observe your forearm when you move your fingers, you can see the movement of the muscles that move your fingers.

Trying to strengthen your fingers tends be counterproductive by creating excess tension. There is no need to bang your fingers on the fingerboard. A lighter touch can increase your facility and reduce unnecessary tension. It is best to never use more force than the minimum needed to accomplish a task.

You can get amazing results by playing on the side of the string with the string not touching the fingerboard at all. To do this, place your finger on the wood of the fingerboard on the low side of the string. Resting the end of your finger on the wood provides a pivot point for your vibrato.

It is dangerous to take the Cossman studies too literally. It is best to use them judiciously, in small doses, varying the rhythms and avoiding over doing it. The worst thing you can ever do is have a ‘no pain no gain” attitude.

Laura Wichers
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(2/3/01 10:03:08 pm)
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Re: Cossman Torture Exercises???
"There are no muscles in our fingers. If you observe your forearm when you move your fingers, you can see the movement of the muscles that move your fingers. Trying to strengthen your fingers tends be counterproductive by creating excess tension."

Good idea to keep in mind, all. It's also been my experience that the best, easiest, and healthiest way to strengthen the muscles that control your fingers is plain, simple PRACTICE. Even just tapping patterns on a countertop will help.

A practice rule to always have in mind: If something hurts, STOP. Re-evaluate your practice technique and find a way to accomplish your performance goal that doesn't cause any pain.

Laura


          New Cossman Torture Exercises-celloadgc-(6)-1/25/01 9:20:47 pm  
               New Cossman Torture Exercises???-Victor Sazer 2/3/01 5:35:42 pm  
                    New Re: Cossman Torture Exercises???-Laura Wichers 2/3/01 10:03:08 pm  
               They won't bite...hard-Cellochick  1/28/01 12:47:41 am  
               Re: Cossman Torture Exercises-Christopher Chan 1/27/01 11:35:39 pm  
                    New The 'flutter'-Corrina Connor 2/3/01 2:33:29 am  
               ;-)-42 1/26/01 9:58:49 am  
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