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cellogrl
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(7/19/00 1:34:43 pm)
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2questions - # 1 rosin , #2 carbon fibre bows
Question # 1: I used to be able to
buy Lanaro cello rosin here in Toronto but haven't seen it here or
anywhere for ages. It is my favourite and I am out of it. Anyone
know where I can get it or is it just not made any more?
Question #2: Has anyone bought a carbon fibre bow? Which
kind? How do you like it?
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OyOy
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(7/19/00 1:41:16 pm)
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2questions - # 1 rosin , #2 carbon fibre bows
www.cellos2go.com can help you with
both questions.
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cellogrl
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(7/19/00 2:15:05 pm)
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Thanks for you super quick reply but
I was looking for personal opinion - not sales.
Robyn
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Bobbie
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(7/19/00 3:00:24 pm)
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I don't know about rosin.
I
do have a Coda Classic bow, though, and have also played on Coda
Conservatory and Arcus bows. I like all of them. I'll echo other
people in saying that once I started using the Coda Classic I more
or less quit using my pernambuco bow, although it is a fairly decent
bow. I strongly recommend trying at least one when you are bow
shopping as you will be amazed at the difference between a carbon
fiber bow and a pernambuco or brazilwood bow that is a comparable
price. As far as individual differences between the bows, I like the
Arcus for Bach but I am just trying it out now and am not sure I
like it as much as the Coda Classic for other stuff.
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Ellen
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(7/19/00 4:24:57 pm)
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Robyn, Cellos2Go is more than just
sales. It is a resource. I would help you find Lanaro rosin if I'd
ever heard of it, but I haven't. Let me check on it and see if I can
turn anything up.
As for Carbon Fiber bows, suffice it to
say there are people who like, and dislike, each bow that you are
going to ask about. I sell them, I get feedback on them. And the
usual caveat holds: it's also a function of your style of play,
technique level, strings, cello, rosin, every component that goes
into the sound that comes out of a cello.
It also makes a
difference what you are currently playing on. If you are moving from
a Lamy, your expections will be quite different than if you are
moving from a fiberglass student bow. Do you see what I'm getting
at?
In general, I would say that for the same price, you get
more bow for the money in carbon fiber. More consistency in the
parameters of the stick because carbon fiber is easier to control
when forming sticks than Mother Nature when it makes trees.
Therefore you can get the manufactured "perfection" in carbon fiber
that in a tree demands top dollar because it is so rare. This is not
etched in stone. You can find good bows that don't cost an arm and a
leg, but you can't find them in a catalog; it will be dumb luck to
stumble upon one.
The best thing you can do is play as many
as you can get your hands on, on your cello, and draw your own
conclusions.
If I find the rosin, is there an e-mail you can
be reached at?
Edited by Ellen
G at: 7/19/00 4:24:57
pm
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Paul
Tseng ICS Staff 
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(7/19/00 6:10:42 pm)
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YOu can also check on the instrument
and equipment board. I know that Todd French and the people there
have had this discussion and have gone into great detail researching
this.
I wish I had some personal opinons on the carbonfibre
bow. Are you looking into these for the price only?
Best
wishes!
Paul Tseng, Cello Chat Administrator
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lblake
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(7/19/00 9:35:46 pm)
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#1) i'm no help, sorry.
#2)
suuuurrre, i've got plenty of opinion!
Here's what I've
given a good, healthy try (as in, a week at home, or so)
to:
Glasser Carbon-fiber
Coda Conservatory (didn't take it
home for a week, though... tried a few... liked the Classic
better.)
Coda Classic
Arcus
Berg Ebony
Berg
Deluxe
Hmmm... I think that was it.... i may be forgetting
things, in my old age.
I have a pernambuco bow that I like
very very much... but I was having nightmares that it would break,
so for my second bow, I went on a pretty extensive search for a
carbon-fiber bow... tried everything I could get my hands on. I
bought an Arcus. Do I like it? YES. I love it. Especially once I
figured out the hair-tension thing. It seems to perform best at a
remarkably loose tension, I think. It kinda has to be "just right."
But, once you figure that out, whoah - stand back. Did I say I love
my bow? I DO! I love it! I won't say much more here, because I am
prone to ramble on and on, and make you not think I'm as serious and
objective as I actually am in how much I love my bow.
You
may want to do a search on carbon-fiber or composite bows here or on
the instruments and equipment board (or on maestronet)... or, just
"bows"... you'll find lots of reviews. Andrew Victor went through
even more extensive testing than I did. He is much more experienced
than I am, so he's a great person to do such a review. Although, he
also seemed to pretty much get the same results as I did. I think
that post where he had that review was rather recent...
Well... merry bow-hunting!
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lblake
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(7/19/00 9:40:48 pm)
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Really - that IS what we mean when
we say go to www.cellos2go.com for info - it's very informational,
and Ellen has been doing a terrific job of gathering information -
and I'm sure she must have quite an amazing collection of reviews
(solicited or not!  ) on most of
the CF bows on the market.
Kind of the point of cellos2go
seems to be to benefit from everyone else's experience. and for
that, Ellen, we are all grateful!
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KeyWestStrings
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(7/21/00 9:14:55 am)
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I'm an amateur cellist, so take my
opinion for what it's worth. I am currently test driving several cf
bows that Ellen at Cellos2Go sent me. I've had them about a week. My
first impression was that I loved the Berg Ebony- it is beautiful.
It handles very much like a fine traditional pernabuco. I also tried
the Spiccato adjustable bow--also quite lovely to look at, but
heavier than I like. The Arcus deserves special mention. It is very
unusual--but it grows on you. The more I play it, the more I like
it. Last night during a quartet rehearsal we really bonded (the bow
and I, not so much the quartet--but we did have our moments.) I
currently own a Coda Classic, which I like okay, but I am on a
search for a cf bow that plays like my teacher's priceless Lamy.
None of the pernabuco bows I tried came close to that. And they were
five times the price. But the Arcus (and to some extent the Coda)
approach the feel and responsiveness of the Lamy (which was
appraised at $20,000). I don't make a lot of demands on my bow (I
just don't have the skill.) But the Arcus is very user-friendly.
Once you get past its unusual heft and appearance, it is quite
amazing. My teacher thought it was an ebony stick!
Oops! I'm
beginning to sound like Laura  The
best advice is to check out Cellos2Go and Todd French at Stringworks
and try lots of bows until you find the right one for you and your
cello. Good luck and have fun.
Judith McKnight
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lblake
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(7/23/00 12:07:36 am)
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See? It's contagious! Have you made
it as loose as you possibly can and still play on it? Just a tip....
play with the hair tension until you get it just right - makes a
real difference.
There were a number of the higher-level
bows that I did like very much, with balance and sound and all....
but none came close to the comfort of the Arcus for me. That light
weight just puts it in an entirely separate category somehow. Just
so comfortable... and so nimble.
You can't help but remark
at it! I say, go ahead and ramble! The more separate opinions people
write on these things, the better idea we can get of how they might
really work if we tried them. Descriptions are so personal, you
know? So, if you are doing research on these boards, and you don't
personally know the people, then I say: the more people who ramble
on about equipment they like (along with why), the better! 
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KeyWestStrings
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(7/23/00 9:49:42 am)
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Laura, I remembered your tip about
the tension (and also about using very little rosin.) I must say
that at yesterday's wedding performance in front of a captive
audience of 300 in a beautiful church with great accoustics, the
Arcus pulled me through some tricky spots that usually fall apart
when I am nervous. I surprised myself with the sound!
Judith McKnight
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