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CelloBass
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(8/26/01 6:59:33 pm)
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I have Larsen Soloist a-strings on both of my two cellos and I bought them because I heard that they were among the best a-strings available. OK, they are not bad, but I am not absolutely happy with them. They get really loud and brilliant starting at the range of e (2nd pos.) upwards, but the empty a-string and the notes of the following third sound a bit thin, lacking volume. It sounds a bit like the vowel 'a' in 'car'. My explanation for this is that it is a consequence of the low diameter together with the high tension. Both seems to favor the upper regions of those strings. Well, now I could order two dozens of different a-strings and try to find the best one. But before doing so, I would like to ask if anybody of you has noticed similar effects, and what strings cured this problem on your cello. I see it on both of my cellos, so I think it is rather string related than cello related. I have tried the standard, non-Soloist version as well, but it made no difference. Played on the d-string, those notes sound full and resonant, but on the a-string they sound a bit like cold coffee brewed yesterday. :) .

Horst

TerryM 
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(8/26/01 7:31:45 pm)
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I would give the Pirastro Obligato A a try. It may take a bit of time to break in, but it is rich in harmonic overtones and has a pretty full sound, at least it does on my cello. I don't believe it is made with the same core as the other Obligato strings.

However, having spent the last week or so trying out various new strings on two very different cellos, I am reluctant to make any recomendations. It amazed me how strings, that did not sound all that great on one cello, sounded very good on the other. In light of this, I think that making blanket recommendations or condemnations, for that matter, can be very misleading. Each cello has its own characteristic response and some strings might enhance or detract from that response and the results could be very different for different cellos, bows and players.

Terry

Bobbie
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(8/26/01 8:49:24 pm)
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I would also consider what the lower strings are. A change in the G and C especially can have a large effect on the sound of the A string.

CelloBass
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(8/27/01 7:52:04 am)
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Terry,

thanks for your comments. That is what I always wanted to ask: When I replace one of my steel strings by an Obligato, does that mean that I have to replace the other steel strings by synthetic strings as well, or do the Obligatos blend well with steel strings? Basically you are right. Today I have placed a big a-string-order :) I have spent a lot of money for cellos, a bow, having the setup done by an experienced luthier... and I will spend a lot for lessons in the future. I don't play the cello because I want to break the world record in fast scale playing, I do it because of the sound of the cello. And I know myself pretty well. I won't be satisfied until I have tried some other strings, ending with a string that is at least close to the optimum. And it will be an interesting experiece to see how those different strings all people talk about will sound on my instruments. And I will have a lot of strings to replace a broken one :)

Horst

Steve Drake
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(8/27/01 9:51:09 am)
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The obligato A strings are actually a steel core string. So it might work, but it may also be a lower tension, so there might be some adjusting to do.

There are so many variables in cello set up, that I really doubt that it's just the A string causing your problem. But they're the cheapest string, so it's not too expensive to experiment.

I've never really liked the Larsen soloists - they're too bright. I like the Jargar or the Larsen regular strings, but in the forte (or strong) variation. I've found Jargars and Larsens to be pretty much interchangeable, at least for the A and D strings.

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CelloBass
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(8/27/01 2:23:45 pm)
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Steve,

I don't like the Larsen D either. On my cellos this string sounds just boring. OK, it speaks well, but the sound is too flat and simple. I play a Prim D and I think that Prim strings are generally underestimated. What I get with the Prim is a slight metallic edge with clear and pretty strong harmonics. And the good thing is that it keeps those harmonics even when playing in the upper thumb regions where thicker strings usually loose brilliance. The Prim sounds pretty much like Dominant strings on my violin. And you can dig into the string with high pressure near the bridge without loosing the synchronization. This is not the way I like to play, but sometimes when the bow gets too short unexpectedly, it is good when the string tolerates it. :)

Horst

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a-string-question CelloBass 8/26/01 6:59:33 pm
    Re: a-string-question TerryM  8/26/01 7:31:45 pm
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          Re: a-string-question Steve Drake 8/27/01 9:51:09 am
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