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learhy
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(8/28/01 1:38:11 pm)
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I'm curious- are ALL cello sections as split as mine? Our principle is a brilliant player, and she does a great job of keeping us up to speed, but as far as socially, it seems like none of us really bond as a group. I was recently talking to Steve Hauser from the Grant Park Symphony and he said that the whole cello section parties together, helps with music and technique/etc... I'm jealous. I'm just theorizing here that all college/youth orchestras are just too based upon competition as apposed to focusing on the whole picture (or I guess I should say orchestra) sounding great. What is the purpose of having assigned seating except to provide cutthroat competition? I have often thought that if there was a rotation in seating, or some kind of round table decision making in seating (such as pairing off people who complement each other/ separating people who are just as talented) would create a much better approach to sound in general. I guess the best example of what I am talking about is this: There is an assistant principle in another orchestra of mine who is always red in the face from turning around and yelling foul things at everyone behind him. First Rehersal Quote: "You can't play that yet? It's only in thumb position (like on E) and you aren't in junior high anymore!" And our principle, what a joke, he just sits there and lets this guy dish it out. I guess I'm just blowing off steam...any one else have simmilar experiences?

Edited by: learhy at: 8/28/01 1:45:29 pm
ruthann 
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(8/28/01 2:05:29 pm)
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I remember this kind of BS from college orchestra. Don't you just love it when someone in front turns around and gives you "the look" when you know darn well it wasn't you that made the mistake? I can still see this one pair in my mind. They really bothered me until I figured out they were the types to tear everyone else down to make themselves look better. I've noticed that the really good players are usually just helpful, not judgemental.

Our local community orchestra is quite the opposite. "You sit first." "No, you sit first." "No you sit first." At a recent festival orchestra, the section leader (and paid coach) had us rotate so that everyone had a new stand partner for each rehersal, and a chance to sit in front, middle, back, inside and outside. You do get to know people better that way, although it's more fun to sit with someone you like.

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zambocello
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(8/28/01 11:07:46 pm)
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As a college section leader, I had a lot of fun and tried to include as many as I could in the fun, but I also recall being a jerk at times. I don't think it had to do with the competition, just my immaturity.

As far as professional orchestras go, I've played in six of 'em and have been struck by how much more camaradery there is in regional-level orchestras. I always marked it up to the fact that more of the players had things in common, starting with being on the audition trail in pursuit of a better gig.

learhy
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(8/29/01 1:15:19 pm)
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I have to agree with the BS adjective. I would much prefer your community orchestra type setting. I personally would much rather sit in back with the basses then get up close and personal with this guy. ...but oh well, I'm stuck up there and I guess I'll just wait it out.

Thanks!

Dan

Edited by: learhy at: 8/29/01 1:15:55 pm
David Sanders 
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(8/29/01 4:23:09 pm)
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The CSO cello section has at times been quite friendly, and at other times not so friendly. There are some of us in the section who are good friends and socialize together a bit, but it is rare when the whole group would get together.
I think it's easier for a group like Grant Park, which has only 8 cellos, instead of 12 in the CSO. Most of them are in the same age group, with a lot of the same interest in still looking for another job.
When I was in Grant Park, in the last milenium, it wasn't a very close section. I was one of 3 new members, and the three of us were still in college, and much younger than the rest of the section.

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cello section blues learhy 8/28/01 1:38:11 pm
    Re: cello section blues David Sanders  8/29/01 4:23:09 pm
    Re: cello section blues zambocello 8/28/01 11:07:46 pm
    Re: cello section blues ruthann  8/28/01 2:05:29 pm
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