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musiker
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(8/15/01 12:21:58 pm)
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Schroetter
Cello... pans, praises?
Hello, I am just beginning to learn the cello. The local music
store that rents them has a policy where you can not choose the
cello you rent, it is more or less "luck of the draw" as to what
they have in stock.
Anyway, I rented one, and it is a Schroetter.
The store has a "rent to own" policy, and all rental money can
be applied to purchase (with no time restrictions).
I was
wondering if this is a cello that I should just rent and not
consider buying, or is it a decent
manufacturer?
Thanks,
musiker
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CelloBass
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(8/15/01 4:27:19 pm)
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Re: Schroetter
Cello... pans, praises?
Hi Musiker,
that's a strange combination of policies. Does
that mean that you can't choose a cello, even if you intend to buy
it? To me this sounds not very customer friendly. I think I would
stay away form both, renting and buying. Is there no other source
where you can play and try them?
Horst
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musiker
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(8/16/01 7:50:09 am)
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Re: Schroetter
Cello... pans, praises?
Yes, it is an unusual arrangement, and one that I am not entirely
happy with. But in my area, there are few places that will
rent.
So, the question still stands, what of the Schroetter
cello?
Thank you for any help,
musiker
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Andrew
Victor
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(8/16/01 8:43:06
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Ellen, Todd,
where are you?
There are a couple of people who are regulars at this board who are
in the "cello business," Ellen Gunst of www.cellos2go.com and Todd
French of www.stringworks.com (the moderator of this board who has
to be careful what he says here).
Both know cellos and have
impeccable reputations for their dealings. I think they would assure
that any instrument that came from them would be "up to
snuff."
You don't have to live near them.
Andy
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Ellen
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(8/16/01 8:52:33
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Re: Ellen, Todd,
where are you?
Deskunking a cat.
I don't know that make of cello, I am
sorry.
Rentals are wait-listed.
A rental cello should
not be of the same variety you have to purchase. The rental credit
should be able to go to purchase of a cello that shop sells. That
means it's important to make sure the shop has something you want to
purchase when the times comes. Or at least enough variety that you
think you will find something that you can then possibly resell as
you trade up.
OR, like a rental car, you rent it because you
have to. You pay for it, and walk away.
There are other
options but as I said, I'm deskunking a cat right now. We're in
between sessions. She is being a sweetheart, by the way, under the
circumstances. E
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Todd
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(8/16/01 9:00:08 am)
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...luckily not
deskunking a cat
I've had the pleasure of deskunking one of our dogs before, but not
a cat. I would think it more difficult to deskunk a cat only because
they are so much more mobile and flexible, therefore have the
ability to escape... Since were talking domestic animals versus the
wild, our fat little beagle met a rattlesnake for the first time
yesterday afternoon on our walk to the beach - luckily the young
rattlesnake was too afraid and retreated (rattle going at full) into
the bushes. Close call.
Anyway, back to the subject.
Unfortunately, like Ellen, I do not know of this brand at all, but I
have to say I was very turned off by the conditions upon which your
store requires for rental. First come-first serve is not exactly an
assurance that you are getting a high quality rental. Also, if there
is nothing there you really want to purchase, there's no reason to
waste your rental income there. Go with another company that allows
you to use your rental fees toward purchase, has good instruments
that aren't 'first come-first serve', and, more importantly, has an
instrument that you really WANT to purchase, whether it's the one
you are renting or something else. Again, I don't know Schroetter
cellos, but even if you like the cello, I'd go with a different
company, personally. I think their business practices are a little
off...
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Ellen
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(8/16/01 9:15:02
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A
suggestion
A lot more people read these boards than ever post here. I
recommend you leave your city/state and e-mail address here and more
importantly on the main board. Usually people come out of the
woodwork when they know something about the cello, know your
vicinity. I have never been spammed by anything to do with ICS. The
responses are genuine and you may find a shop near you, with their
help. The network here is huge if you are willing to bare your
e-mail address.
Renting a Schroetter is not the end of the
world. There are people in South Africa and other places who, at
purchase time, can select from a Cremona or Palatino, period. They
improve the setup the best they can.
If you rent short term
and keep the search on for other places, you can play and continue
to gather information. You don't want to have $1,000 of rent into a
company with something you don't want, but if you lose a little and
gain a lot in experience, you have something valuable.
When
I was renting a cello, I changed the strings to better ones and
returned the lousy ones when I returned the cello. Also, if the
rental has a fiberglass or other horrible bow, you may well be able
to improve your bow first and get along with an inferior cello
better than you expected. Creative thinking. Good luck!!!
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harriclay
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(8/16/01 9:21:04 am)
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Re: ...luckily
not deskunking a cat
I think Schroetter cellos are laminates ... i.e., plywood with a
plasticky veneer on top. Probably to be avoided.
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Bobbie
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(8/16/01 9:30:37 am)
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or check "OK" on
private messages.(NT)
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ruthann
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Re: or check
"OK" on private messages.(NT)
I agree that not being able to pick the cello you rent is a very
odd policy. Do keep in mind that "rental credit" does you no good if
what the shop carries is junk. I know of a somewhat local (within
100 miles of me) shop that rents and sells cellos. The rentals are
okay - cheap strings, but not bad for student instruments. What they
have to sell is pretty much the same type of stuff. One of my
students ended up with a not great (but not bad) cello from there
because her parents had the rental credit that they couldn't stand
to let go. In my opinion they would have been better off cello-wise
and money-wise going elsewhere, especially to cellos2go or
stringworks.
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MaryK
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(8/16/01 1:17:06
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Ellen, how does
one "deskunk" a cat??
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musiker
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(8/16/01 1:21:29 pm)
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Re: Schroetter
Cello... pans, praises?
Thank you all for your replies... it seems this is truly a mystery
cello.
The only positive thing about renting this particular
cello is that the "introductory period" of three months costs me a
total of 30 dollars, and after that i can discontinue renting the
instrument.
I think that after the introductory period, I shall
check on one of the online websites (stringworks or cello2go)
regarding the rental of a cello.
Before that, I am thinking that
I will try to get a better bow than the rental one! It is
trash!
Thanks!
musiker
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RemRem
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(8/16/01 2:45:40 pm)
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Re: Schroetter
Cello... pans, praises?
Erm, not that I had something to say about Schroetter cellos (btw,
the German word Schrott means trash
 ) but those
posts make me feel like a spoiled brat with three luthiers (not
music stores) within 15 minutes walking distance 
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Hi Mary
K!
Hope you don't mind if I step in here; I've had to do it to my dog
myself! Tomato juice poured over the dog helps to neutralize the
smell a lot. When I used to work at the vet clinic, we used a
combination of baking soda and vinegar and that worked as well. (I
suspect our friend Ellen is still deskunking her poor little beast!)
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There aren't any
skunks 'round here...
The bobcat ate them! No kidding - I've got at least one bobcat, and
probably some coyotes up on the hill behind my house. And this is
metro Nashville! I can't let my cat's roam at night for this reason.
Other fauna that's been observed - deer, rabbits (lots), owls,
hawks, foxes, snakes, and more bugs than you can possibly imagine -
including the largest stag beatle I 've ever seen.
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karenlee
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(8/17/01 12:17:37
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I don't know
Schrotter. Here's my 2 cents anyway
When I started out renting, I asked the teacher who worked at the
store to help me pick out a rental, but I never got an opportunity
to select. I had the impression they weren't going to waste the
time. So I am not surprised to hear you had no choice either! When
asked them to replace the synthetic bow with a real hair bow, they
did do that. I bought my own strings and removed them when I
returned the cello. Ultimately, it was hard to part with it, even
thought it was sort of a beater, because it was my first. No matter
what instrument they give you, you can learn something on it! Good
Luck!
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MaryK
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Re: Hi Mary
K!
Hey, Betsy!
Gee, tomato juice? Makes me glad Mia is an
indoor cat! What a job de-skunking must be!
MaryK
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MaryJM
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rentals
Rentals do not need to be local to you. One mail order/internet
rental place is www.johnson-inst.com/rental/index.htm
Mary
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Eric
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(8/18/01 9:22:57 pm)
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Well,
I own a Scroetter Cello, I bought it for $1500
after my teacher said it was probably worth $4k, he's a long time
symphony cellist. I know it sounds great because I go to victoria to
see my parents and rent a cello, which is usually crap in
comparaison.
I'm not sure how much variety there is between
cellos made by Schroetter.
Oh, mine's not made of
plywood.
Eric
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tiffanylne
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(8/19/01 12:08:47 am)
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schroetter
well, i'm an ebay addict and i see schroetters on there from time to
time...there aren't any at the moment....but completed auctions
listed newer 4/4's between $150 and $450...but the only ones to
receive bids were the ones that were around 10 yrs old or
more...
i don't know if this says anything about the
instrument's quality... but normally if the cello stuff on ebay is
even semi-decent, then it gets tons of bids.
also, some said
laminate and some said solid spruce and maple.
i hope my
ebay addiction has helped you, hehe
tiffany
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