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obligato
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(8/30/01 5:21:57 am)
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rope core vs steel
who can explain me the difference between rope core and steel strings? Which one has more tension?
Paul

Ellen G 
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(8/30/01 6:35:22 am)
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Re: rope core vs steel
"Per gauge the tension alters by 10%" is what the Pirastro website says. You may enjoy a visit to their site to read some of the qualities and characteristics they give for their selection of strings.
www.pirastro.com Click on "My Instrument" to find the cello chart.

obligato
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(8/30/01 9:10:44 am)
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re: ropecore vs steel
Hi Ellen,
what I mean is, for instance the Jargar G and C strings are steel and the Belcanto G and C are ropecore. Do these materials have a difference in tension?
Paul

TerryM 
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(8/30/01 10:33:06 am)
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Re: re: ropecore vs steel
The "rope" refers to the way in which the metal is wound within the string. Steel cores (usually thin fibers of roped or spiraled steel) are wrapped with a variety of metals such as aluminum, chrome steel, tungsten, silver and most recently, titanium.

You can read about these differences at:

www.cellos2go.com/string.htm

Terry

Ellen G 
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(8/30/01 10:36:34 am)
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Re: re: ropecore vs steel
I'd like to be able to answer your question, but the string companies haven't been particularly helpful in this endeavor. Having checked with my engineer, he proposed the notion that numbers don't necessarily MEAN much to the average bear. And trying to use information without understanding what it all means can be as dangerous as not having the information in the first place. For example the Pirastro Oliv strings don't come in three tension names; they give actual numbers. If you order an A string and receive it in the mail with a number on it, do you know if it's light, medium or heavy tension? Nope. Not unless you're looking at three different A strings with three different numbers on them. If it says Light, Medium, Heavy, you know.

However, if you have a string and you want to try one of different tension, you haven't got a clue which ones fall into what range. I see the merit for a comparative chart.

That said, keep in mind Jargar steel strings come in three tensions. I cannot obtain the relevant numbers for you, though I seem to recall someone posting a chart once which had a lot of tensions listed. Belcanto, on the other hand, are available in only one tension. I didn't realize this until trying to order a Forte and I was told it doesn't exist. Maybe it's just the Gold series -- not sure.

Maybe one of the string expert guys can help you out. For more interesting reading from the string sites, check out www.thomastik.com It really is sort of neat to see what the companies say about their strings. They will readily talk about cores and windings, but nowhere can I find them -- any of them -- willing to discuss tension other than the reference to the fact strings come in three tensions. Diameter/gauge is another statistic you tend to see more for violin strings than you do cello. I tend to agree that some of this empirical information, to the layperson, isn't particularly helpful.

If you do try some of the heavy tension strings, make sure, if your cello has fine tuners, it can accommodate the rather fat string & winding. I know you didn't ask this question, but a lot of people are reading these posts and any tidbits that show up tangentially are of interest to some folks.

Edited by: Ellen G  at: 8/30/01 11:03:06 am
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rope core vs steel obligato 8/30/01 5:21:57 am
    Re: rope core vs steel Ellen G  8/30/01 6:35:22 am
       re: ropecore vs steel obligato 8/30/01 9:10:44 am
          Re: re: ropecore vs steel Ellen G  8/30/01 10:36:34 am
          Re: re: ropecore vs steel TerryM  8/30/01 10:33:06 am



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