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ruthann 
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(8/28/01 1:56:33 pm)
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The Red Violin
I caught this movie on satellite last night. How odd to See Samuel L. Jackson in a movie without guns and car chases! I very much enjoyed the violin playing and was not suprised to see Joshua Bell in the credits. I did miss who all the music was composed by (felt a tickle on my knee, looked down to see a vinegaroon the size of a quarter. Yikes!).

So who was the composer and is the sound track CD any good?

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Steve Drake
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(8/28/01 2:27:38 pm)
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I think it was Corigliano (probably wrong spelling, and I can't remember his first name). He's quite adept at melding modern composition with more period styles.

What's a vinegaroon?

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JanJan2
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(8/28/01 3:09:07 pm)
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John Corigliano

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jengal
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(8/28/01 3:21:55 pm)
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The soundtrack CD, like most movie soundtrack CDs, suffers a bit without the movie context on the pieces, but less so than some others because of course the whole idea was that this one violin's personality carried through the ages w/ all its owners. The CD includes a concert piece based on themes from the movie (I think it's called the Red Violin Chaconne?) that is fairly successful as an independent piece. But I still found that I didn't enjoy the soundtrack nearly as much as I enjoyed the music when it was played during the movie.

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ruthann 
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(8/28/01 3:58:47 pm)
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Ah, yes, for you not desert dwellers, a vinegaroon is an arachnid that looks like a scorpion without a tail. Ugly. Sometimes they are called sun spiders. The vinegar in vinegaroon supposedly comes from the taste you get in your mouth after one bites you. Not poisonous. They are supposed to eat other yucky things like black widow spiders. They freak me out!

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zambocello
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(8/28/01 11:11:35 pm)
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I just saw this for the first time on video and enjoyed it very much.

On the video they have pictures of Joshua Bell (who does the violin playing) and Esa-Pekka Salonen (who does the conducting.) The orchestra for the sound track is the London Philharmonia, but Salonen's picture is with the LA Phil. Hrmph!

yo yo jr
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(8/29/01 11:00:22 pm)
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joshua bell
also he is in the movie in another spot (well his left hand anyways) the part when that pope guy is playing his peice for the audience it is just a shot of the actor who plays pope holding the violin under his chin and Joshua Bell is crouching beneath him doing all the finger work and another guy is doing crazy bow action on the other side. :)

Liz Schneider
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(8/30/01 12:03:18 am)
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Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting?
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G M Stucka
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(8/30/01 8:17:39 am)
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Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting?
If you refer to the film's portrayal about the lack of integrity in the instrument appraising/selling business, I agree with you. Regarding the rest of the film, I enjoyed it (I was more than a bit amused at the Paganini-like character and his ability to practice passages on his violin while exploring the passages of...........oops, I'd better not go there.) I'm also told by Chinese colleagues that the depiction of China's cultural revolution was handled quite accurately.

Andrew Victor
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(8/30/01 8:27:37 am)
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Well--! It depends on what disgusted you!
I was amazed by a man who could satisfy his music and his women simultaneously. Sex and music may mix, but rarely that way. I would rather have seen a movie about the TRUE story of one of the many other real violins contemporary with the "RED VIOLIN.

I enjoyed aspects of the movie, although I confess I probably would have enjoyed the two hours more if they had been spent showing the spectal analysis of the instrument that was only implied by all the electronic equipment surrounding it toward the end of the flick. As a violin movie it was technically pretty good. As a movie it was very well done considering the low Canadian budget it had.

It was interesting to watch the evolution of bows and chinrests as time passed. And the changes from all gut to modern strings (this was not clear on the video but was very clear on the big screen). I was especially taken by the appearance of what seemed to be a Pirastro Olive G on the instrument c.a. 1800, long before I thought they existed (I rented the video to see it again - but could not see it with that poor resolution).

Andy

Ellen G 
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(8/30/01 10:21:38 am)
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I liked the movie, found it confusing with all the flashbacks and had to watch it again -- which was not unenjoyable. Indeed, the "passage" does seem to support the old adage that size DOES count. You simply cannot do some things with a large instrument. The ending drove me crazy. I, too, was told that the depiction of China was accurate.

TerryM 
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(8/30/01 11:13:32 am)
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Ha Ha - Leave it to Andy to notice that!
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ruthann 
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(8/30/01 11:29:00 am)
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Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting?
Yeah, the ending was pretty lame. Would no one ever discover the switch? What about the other guy who "helped" with the theft. Would he be content to let the violin go to the daughter of his partner in crime?

I did enjoy the portrayal of the "world famous violinist" who didn't think much of the instrument until he found out what it was.

It wasn't the best movie I've ever seen but it was a long way from the worst. I'd watch it again.

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TerryM 
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(8/30/01 3:07:31 pm)
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I don't think it was clear from the end which was the "real" violin and where it ended up. Was the violin returned or stolen?

Terry

JanJan2
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(8/30/01 3:10:22 pm)
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Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting?
It drove off with Samuel Jackson. The fake was auctioned.

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zambocello
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(8/30/01 3:18:41 pm)
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Are you sure?
My imagination left open the possibility that he was returning the stolen fiddle, taking his copy with him.

JanJan2
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(8/30/01 3:35:14 pm)
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Hmmm, I'll have to watch it again. I never thought of it that way. Now I know what I'll be doing tonight . . .

Janet

Bobbie
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(8/30/01 4:04:36 pm)
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I thought it was meant to be unclear at the end, leaving you to wonder what had been auctioned.

Laura Wichers
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(8/30/01 5:10:53 pm)
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Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting?
I took the ending to be indicative of coming disaster. Everyone who had owned and played the violin died prematurely, and Jackson's character intended to give the violin to his daughter.


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The Red Violin ruthann  8/28/01 1:56:33 pm
    Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting? Liz Schneider 8/30/01 12:03:18 am
       Well--! It depends on what disgusted you! Andrew Victor 8/30/01 8:27:37 am
          Ha Ha - Leave it to Andy to notice that! TerryM  8/30/01 11:13:32 am
       Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting? G M Stucka 8/30/01 8:17:39 am
          Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting? Ellen G  8/30/01 10:21:38 am
             Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting? ruthann  8/30/01 11:29:00 am
                Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting? TerryM  8/30/01 3:07:31 pm
                   Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting? Laura Wichers 8/30/01 5:10:53 pm
                   Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting? Bobbie 8/30/01 4:04:36 pm
                   Re: Am I the only one who found the movie disgusting? JanJan2 8/30/01 3:10:22 pm
                      Are you sure? zambocello 8/30/01 3:18:41 pm
                         Re: Are you sure? JanJan2 8/30/01 3:35:14 pm
    joshua bell yo yo jr 8/29/01 11:00:22 pm
    Re: The Red Violin zambocello 8/28/01 11:11:35 pm
    Re: The Red Violin Steve Drake 8/28/01 2:27:38 pm
       Re: The Red Violin ruthann  8/28/01 3:58:47 pm
       Re: The Red Violin JanJan2 8/28/01 3:09:07 pm
          Re: The Red Violin jengal 8/28/01 3:21:55 pm



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