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CelloTron
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(8/9/01 11:16:40 pm)
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Practice mutes
OK, I keep hearing about these magical little devices called "practice mutes;" considering how thin the walls are in my new dorm (and also since my mom tells me daily that she's sick of hearing the Elgar), I'm seriously considering buying one.

But I don't know the first thing about them.

What makes for a good mute? I've poked around on the Internet and found ones made of, to wit, wire, rubber, ebony, and chrome. Probably plastic/resin, too, but I don't remember one of those.

What does the best job of deadening your sound? What kind would best conform to a weird bridge? Is chrome really worth $15 more than rubber? Should I just stop overthinking it and buy one already?

Any advice would be appreciated....

AaronReeves
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(8/9/01 11:25:32 pm)
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I have a rubber one. Works just fine. Kills your tone while you use it, but I'm under the impression that any practice mute will do that when in use. Many people prefer a metal mute, many others prefer rubber. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. Sorry to be so obscure, but I really don't know much to say. Other people are far more knowledgable. :)

Aaron

JacquiOfStars
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(8/9/01 11:39:14 pm)
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Re: Practice mutes
i just got a metal one and it works wonderfully. the only thing i dont like is that it makes little scratches on my cello's bridge. but i don't care much...i play a beat up old rental one anyway.

i've never tried any others, but i doubt that your chrome mute is worth $15 more than the rubber one, i mean sound wise. i hear they are all supposed to deaden your sound pretty equally. i think i would probably get the heavy rubber one if i were you...unless you don't mind the bridge scratchin than get the metal one, its so pretty and shiney :)

Ellen G 
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(8/10/01 6:38:39 am)
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You may have trouble fitting some of the metal mutes on your bridge effectively. One model is cut very flat and if your bridge is curved just wrong, the mute sits on the strings. This is also a poor fit anyway and your mute could fall off and land on your cello. Another requires a very thin bridge or you can't slide the metal mute on in the first place. There is one metal, the TonWolf or something like that, which is more U-shaped, will fit more bridges, and definitely won't interfere with your strings. I would still go with rubber. It is surprising how many mutes fall off. Some people use clothes pins though I've not tried this. Oh, the difference in muting didn't seem substantial enough to risk possible damage. The sound is irritating either way, so I put cello safety first. E

CelloBass
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(8/10/01 11:05:00 am)
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Re: Practice mutes
Cellotron,

there is good news and bad news. The good news: A heavy rubber or metal mute will mute the high register pretty well, the high and expressive notes of your Elgar will wisper. The bad news: A mute will turn your cello into a plywood box when you play the low register. The mute will introduce new wolftones, it will shift existing wolftones, and it will even amplify some low notes. And the strings speak totally different. Some notes speak easier, some are more difficult to bow. The whole deep register is changed completely. I have tried all except the big heavy metal mutes because they scratch the bridge and the top when they fall on it. I would go with a big heavy rubber mute because it absorps most of the energy. Don't practise too much with a mute because you will learn to play your muted cello and you will automatically adapt your bowing to the muted cello. After a while you will overdo the high registers and bow with too much pressure on the low strings to get them working with the mute. When you remove the mute after having played with mute for an hour or so, it will take some time to loose those habits.

Horst

zambocello
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(8/10/01 4:01:21 pm)
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Re: Practice mutes
I prefer a rubber practice mute to a metal one. The rubber mute fits on the bridge better, and there is less down side to dropping the rubber mute.

With the practice mute on you can practice finger gymnastics and intonation, but you won't be practicing for sound (and therefore, music.) To me the contact of bow to cello actually feels different, because of the cello's different response with the mute on.

The best answer would be to practice where you don't need to use the mute.

CelloTron
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(8/10/01 5:53:34 pm)
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Re: Practice mutes > mute dropping
I'm observing that a lot of mute-users seem to have a problem with dropping their mutes on their instruments......I wonder if mute use causes ones' fingers to become weak. ;)

Ellen G 
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(8/10/01 7:38:15 pm)
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Bad fit, they fall off
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CelloTron
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(8/10/01 9:04:54 pm)
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Oh, ok. Silly me :)
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CelloTron
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(8/10/01 9:09:27 pm)
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I'm sure they'd fall off MY funky bridge (picture)
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zambocello
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(8/10/01 9:25:10 pm)
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Dig that crazy cello!
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bridge 
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(8/10/01 9:41:28 pm)
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Yeah. That's preety neat.
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mcello
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(8/11/01 10:34:35 am)
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I only use a practice mute when....
I only use the practice mute when I'm in a motel room or we have company or something and I don't want to bother others with my practicing.

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Practice mutes CelloTron 8/9/01 11:16:40 pm
    I only use a practice mute when.... mcello 8/11/01 10:34:35 am
    Re: Practice mutes zambocello 8/10/01 4:01:21 pm
       Re: Practice mutes > mute dropping CelloTron 8/10/01 5:53:34 pm
          Oh, ok. Silly me :) CelloTron 8/10/01 9:04:54 pm
             I'm sure they'd fall off MY funky bridge (picture) CelloTron 8/10/01 9:09:27 pm
                Dig that crazy cello! zambocello 8/10/01 9:25:10 pm
                   Yeah. That's preety neat. bridge  8/10/01 9:41:28 pm
          Bad fit, they fall off Ellen G  8/10/01 7:38:15 pm
    Re: Practice mutes CelloBass 8/10/01 11:05:00 am
    Re: Practice mutes Ellen G  8/10/01 6:38:39 am
    Re: Practice mutes JacquiOfStars 8/9/01 11:39:14 pm
    Re: Practice mutes AaronReeves 8/9/01 11:25:32 pm



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