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phoebejeebies
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(8/22/01 11:44:07 pm)
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musical jobs besides performance
hello everyone!

I guess I'm sort of taking an informal survey to satisfy my own personal curiosity. :)

Does it seem to you that college majors in Music Education, Music Theory, Music Management, etc...have become sort of "consolation prizes" for students deemed not talented enough for the competitive world of performance? And if so, what is the cause of this? Why aren't students interested in going into music education and administration?

And for those of you that studied something music related in college... why did you opt for performance over education, theory, management, etc.... or vice versa?

phoebe

DoDahlberg
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(8/23/01 4:19:33 am)
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I believe some people do go into these other areas simply because they don't want to/never wanted to perform. They feel they would prefer to teach or become administrators, first - not as some consolation prize. The fact that there are some people who started out wanting to perform and decided to go another route is a life decision, maybe not something that happens entirely by default. Once in a more competitive environment than their high schools, perhaps they see for themselves that performing is not for them but they can remain active in the arts/music by putting what they know to good use in these other areas. It's too bad that these positions are looked at as consolation prizes when in fact someone who isn't the greatest instrumentalist might be a better teacher than the person who is a fantastic player but doesn't have the knack to pass what he/she knows onto their students. Teaching, administrating, and playing require different skills and talents - there might be a few people who can do all three at a high level but they would be the exceptions to the rule.

There is a flip side to this though and I can only speak as someone who went to an art college. When I compared my BFA program to the art program of the art education students I couldn't believe how these people would have the right to come out of college and teach art. Many of the required credits for graduation were spent on education theory classes; the few required art courses were not above an introductory level - I was required to take 90 credits in studio, art history/seminar - art ed.: 30 total; there was no thesis requirement, no exhibition requirement. They didn't need a portfolio review for admission into the art ed. program. I believe it might be the same with some music ed programs.

Ironically, since I teach in an inner city where people don't come in flocks to teach, many of the art and music teachers are people with BFAs who became certified to teach through an alternate route program. (Artists and musicians don't mind a shorter working day/year, a regular pay check, and health insurance.) As a result Newark Public Schools has a pretty fantastic art and music faculty; the majority of the teachers are working artists and musicians.

Dorie

ruthann 
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(8/23/01 10:18:54 am)
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I confess that when I first went to college as a performance major I held the view that performance majors were the cream of the crop, all others just didn't quite measure up. "The others" are probably all working in their field, where I ended up going back to college for a computer science degree. I now regret never having taken a class in pedagogy or conducting - things that were required for music ed majors. I think I would have really enjoyed being a school music teacher. It's a pity you have to make these decisions when you're young and stupid!

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zambocello
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(8/23/01 6:21:01 pm)
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It's all relative
For me, being a performing cellist is the consolation prize for being a mediocre shortstop.

I chose performance because I love to DO things. Play music, play sports, play games..........I like the challenge of performance.

Yesterday I went to my first faculty meeting at my new school, Cal State U-Long Beach. The Head of Department loves to teach and will enjoy when his term as Head is over. The previous Dept Head is now kicked upstairs to Dean of College of the Arts. He loved to teach, I'm sure, but has a passion for administration. I know performers who count the days 'til they can retire with full pension. It takes all types.

phoebejeebies
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(8/23/01 8:36:28 pm)
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not getting to high school students soon enough?
I agree with Dorie that it takes very different types of skills to go into different areas of music, ie, performance, management, & education.

I personally think that part of the problem is that most high school students passionate about the arts are not given the opportunity to find out where their skills lie. Instead, they're left to figure it out in college or later -- when it's more difficult and expensive to change your career path.

When I was in high school, I had lots of experience with performing... thanks to good private teachers, youth orchestras, and music camps. But the extent of my teaching experience was tutoring a younger cellist who lived on my street... and I knew nothing about administration at all. I sort of wonder what would be different if I had gotten exposure to all that before deciding on a major.

My $0.02

- pheebs

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musical jobs besides performance phoebejeebies 8/22/01 11:44:07 pm
    not getting to high school students soon enough? phoebejeebies 8/23/01 8:36:28 pm
    It's all relative zambocello 8/23/01 6:21:01 pm
    Re: musical jobs besides performance ruthann  8/23/01 10:18:54 am
    Re: musical jobs besides performance DoDahlberg 8/23/01 4:19:33 am



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