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Nutter
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(8/26/01 9:35:43 am)
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Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos
I've been looking for a good recording of the Haydn Cello Concertos (the Cmaj in particular) for a while, because I don't much like the obvious choices: du Pre plays it incredibly slowly, Rostropovich tends to rush, and in general neither sound at all 'clean' to me.

The best I've found is Pieter Wispelwey, who plays it at a cracking pace on a period instrument and has an incredible cadenza for the first movement. Definitely a recommended CD!

I've heard that Heinrich Schiff has made a great recording with the Phillips label on a modern instrument (which would be perfect), but I can't find it anywhere. It's evidently out of print. Does anyone have any idea where I could find a second hand/old stock copy of it on CD?

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Nutter

TerryM 
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(8/26/01 12:04:13 pm)
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Re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos
I just did a check on a Canadian website Chapters-Indigo and they indicate that they have 24 hour shipping on the Schiff the Haydn Cello Concertos CD. The price is $24.26 Canadian which is about $16US. You could try ordering it and if they backorder it on you, just cancel the order if you do not want to wait.

http://www.chapters.ca/

Terry

Xabur1342
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(8/26/01 10:22:24 pm)
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re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos
I just wanted to mention that Lynn Harrell has a great recording of the Haydn concertos. I think its my favorite recording of all. Its one of these recordings you can listen to over and over again, its so great.
It may be surprising because you might expect Lynn Harrell to be better at lush romantic stuff, but really its absolutely wonderful.


Xabur

Steve Drake
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(8/26/01 11:01:27 pm)
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Ditto about the Harrell recording.

I also have an old DG recording with Fournier playing both concertos, and if I remember the notes correctly it's the first recording of the C maj. It's a superb recording - worth looking for.

I've always liked the Yo Yo Ma version also, but haven't listened to it in a long time.

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George
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(8/26/01 11:23:20 pm)
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truls mork
My personal favorite is Truls Mork. I think you can find his haydn cd on cdnow.com, but I'm not sure.

George

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(8/27/01 11:51:18 am)
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Re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos
If you are looking for clean and elegant, Yo Yo's recordings are the best!

This is Vintage Ma at its best while he was still playing on the Fournier Gofriller (I know it wasn't offically named that).

Don't look for a huge lush sound from Ma in this recording. I don't really look for that in Haydn anyway...

I haven't yet heard a recording of the Haydns that I like better.


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Nutter
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(8/27/01 12:17:48 pm)
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Re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos
Thanks for the recommendations guys.

I already have Lynn Harrell. He has a nice tone, but he plays it just as slowly as du Pre and I don't like the way he smothers it with vibrato.

I'll see if I can get hold of Truls Monk and Yo Yo Ma--Paul, you should have a listen to the Wispelwey version, it is about as clean and crisp as you can get; quite remarkable.

Thanks again,
Milo

ekifri
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(8/27/01 3:06:02 pm)
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Re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos
Don't forgedt Bylsma! He has a cd with both Haydn, and the Kraft (which is nice to have).

He takes the thrid movement of the C at an astonishing speed.
-eva

Nicholas Anderson
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(8/31/01 1:59:34 am)
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Let's not forget...
Once again, it seems to be my role to mention the recording that's been left out - Christine Walevska. As far as I know, her recording of the two Haydn Cello Concertos with Edo de Waart and the English Chamber Orchestra, on the Philips label, is the only one of her many superb concerto recordings that's currently commercially available on CD. It's really extraordinary, and worth a listen. Her Haydn D is consummately lyrical and tasteful, with her tone that's typically "liquid gold." Her interpretation of the Haydn C is more challenging and radical, and perhaps is not for everyone. For example, her tempos are leisurely, and she brings a "bel canto" element to places that are almost always thought of as "crisp," and thus inconceivable any other way. But it's genuinely artistic, and an original view that deserves fair consideration. An accomplishment not to be overlooked!

-Nick

JuilliardRock
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(9/2/01 9:02:04 pm)
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Suffice it to say there are now enough options, but while I do like some of the recordings mentioned, I don't believe anyone has ever played the D-Major as well as Feuermann...depite the rotten orchestra (interesting story there) and sound quality, he sounds like a million bucks as always, with such a clean and beautiful tone through the primitive technology it is hard to believe the thing was recorded sixty years ago. And it's out on Naxos now (not just Pearl, Vol I) couple with his Dvorak.

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Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos Nutter 8/26/01 9:35:43 am
    Let's not forget... Nicholas Anderson 8/31/01 1:59:34 am
       Re: Let's not forget... JuilliardRock 9/2/01 9:02:04 pm
    Re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos Paul Tseng ICS Staff  8/27/01 11:51:18 am
       Re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos Nutter 8/27/01 12:17:48 pm
          Re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos ekifri 8/27/01 3:06:02 pm
    truls mork George 8/26/01 11:23:20 pm
    Re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos Steve Drake 8/26/01 11:01:27 pm
    re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos Xabur1342 8/26/01 10:22:24 pm
    Re: Heinrich Schiff and the Haydn Cello Concertos TerryM  8/26/01 12:04:13 pm



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