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Anna List
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(9/8/01 7:26:06 pm)
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Competitions
Here in Munich, Germany, the International ARD Competition is being held. I've listened to most of the cellists playing, and I have to say, that the playing level is very high - and - very similar. Nearly everyone is playing the same pieces in the same manner, and in most of the competitions I've seen yet, the winner is the one who plays the most popular works in the most "similar" way. So - what is the effect? They are all wonderful cellists, why do they have to show that they can play many pieces fast, loud? It seems to me, that competitions are opposite to the idea of communication through music.
Anna.
P.S. I hope you understand my "german" english....

JuilliardRock
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(9/8/01 10:05:06 pm)
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I very much agree
You know it is for that very reason that I have always stayed away from competitions...I do think that at one point when these big international competitions began they had the correct idea, that of providing a platform, an opportunity for talented musicians to gain exposure and prizes. but these days the first and most important thing is a level of technical perfection, and if one isn't playing with the accuracy of a machine all the time, he is voted out of the first round. plus as you say there is the emphasis on being average and in the middle. a wonderful example is with a piece such as the haydn D-major concerto. this piece has always been played very personally, some cellists playing it with cuts (an old-fashioned thing which, in my opinion, makes the work a bit more concise) and everyone adding his own little things here and there, grace notes, changing passages just a bit, to give it a personal character. yet at these competitions, they insist on the gendron, schott edition which is the authoratative text as haydn wrote it without the possibility of even the slightest deviation except in the cadenza. it is really too bad since the piece would almost certainly not have been played that way in haydn's lifetime.

anyhow, it is nice to see i am not the only one who holds the opinion that competitions create cookie cutter instrumentalists (certainly not musicians, since truly unique playing is frowned upon in most cases).

mvotapek
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(9/9/01 12:44:07 am)
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Re: I very much agree
...there's a Henle Urtext edition of the Haydn D out now...very interesting comparison to the Schott...

JuilliardRock
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(9/9/01 1:05:03 am)
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Urtext edition
Yes, I know. I've seen it. It may be "to the letter" what Haydn wrote but that doesn't change the fact that a responsible artist would necessarily have to adapt the actual text of the piece to suit his own musical character which, in the context of these "by the book," average, and politically correct competitions, wouldn't be permitted. It is really too bad we have gone so far to this extreme of being so concerned with authenticity, especially with music from the classical period when so much of it was traditionally left to the good sense and taste of the performer.

Too bad, I say.

mvotapek
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(9/9/01 12:28:48 pm)
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Re: Urtext edition
You're preaching to the choir...i ornament shamelessly. I just meant that contests and auditions used to specify Schott in order to not have to deal with the rather lewd Gavaert version of the piece, and now the Henle edition makes the Schott seem romantic by comparison...maybe it will go full circle and the next "preferred" edition will be an artist's personalized "realization" of the piece once again.

JuilliardRock
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(9/9/01 1:45:18 pm)
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Re: Urtext
I figured I was preaching to the choir!
It all seems like much ado about nothing since most everyone these days seems to use one of these new scholarly editions yet any performer of any artistic interest makes his own changes. I must say, though, that in some ways, I do still like the Gavaert edition. I learned it from the Schott but Cole and I always made some of the cuts anyway only because of the length of the first movement. Either way it seems such a shame that we find ourselves in trouble for doing things which were once so much a part of the style!

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Competitions Anna List 9/8/01 7:26:06 pm
    Re: Urtext JuilliardRock 9/9/01 1:45:18 pm
    Urtext edition JuilliardRock 9/9/01 1:05:03 am
       Re: Urtext edition mvotapek 9/9/01 12:28:48 pm
    I very much agree JuilliardRock 9/8/01 10:05:06 pm
       Re: I very much agree mvotapek 9/9/01 12:44:07 am



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