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AaronReeves
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(8/29/01 9:50:43 pm)
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Chamber
Music
In my ever-increasing desire to buy more Classical CD's, I was
wondering the other day about chamber pieces. What are some of your
favorites? (Mainly string quartets and piano trios)Also, I have
developed a taste for more modern composers, mainly Shostakovich and
Prokofiev. I saw at Borders the other day that Shostakovich had
written quite a few string quartets. Anyone know anything about any
of them? I'm not just looking for more 20th century pieces, I like
pretty much all periods of music. Thanks. 
Aaron
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Ellen
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(8/30/01 6:00:46
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Emerson Quartet
recordings
Hi, Aaron. Since their Shostakovich Quartets were award winning,
you may want to give them a listen. I just heard them play one of
the quartets in Ozawa Hall a few weeks ago and while I can't claim
to be a fan of Dmitri's, I am fond of Emerson. You can find them and
the recording at www.emersonquartet.com
Since you're fond of
piano, you also may want to check out the piano/cello sonatas of
David Finckel and his wife Wu Han. I attended an all-Russian program
of theirs and I am assuming recordings were made, but I'm not sure.
That would be www.artistled.com
Sure hope those URL's are
right.
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M Stucka
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(8/30/01 8:11:31
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Re: Emerson
Quartet recordings--YES!!
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Daniel
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(8/30/01 10:26:09
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Yeah, they're
alright
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sarah
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(8/30/01 11:18:06
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Re: Emerson
Quartet recordings
I recently bought their recording of Middle Beethoven quartets and
enjoy it alot.
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Anna
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(8/30/01 6:01:55
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ahh - chamber
music!
My quartet favourites are Budapest String Quartet (for their
natural and emotional music making), Alban Berg Quartet (for their
"perfect" and analytic, but still passionate playing) and the Hagen
Quartet (young, energetic, lovely AND perfect). Concerning piano
trios I only have one favourite, which is the Beaux Arts Trio with
Bernard Greenhouse. Thei recording of Dvorak Trios (Philips) is a
must...
Anyway, still there are soooo many great artists in this
wide field,
have fun!
Anna
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Paul
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Re: Chamber
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I grew up listening to the Stern-Rose-Istomen Trio playing the
Brahms and Schubert Trios. Many of their recordings are still
available and of particular interest would be the digitally
remasterd recordings. The old CBS LPs had the "brilliant" idea of
having the cello sound come out of the right channel only and the
violin out of the left. That was novel but very weird. I think a
remastered recording would be better.
My favorite trio was
the Schubert Bb major trio. To hear Rose sing in the slow movement
was sublime!
Paul Tseng
My Website
Free Cello
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JuilliardRock
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(8/31/01 12:27:06 am)
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Re: Chamber
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And to anyone interested in quartets, let's not forget the
Guarneri...they make the Emerson look like children.
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GlenC
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(9/1/01 12:58:13 am)
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Villa-Lobos'
String Quartets!
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CordulaR
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(9/1/01 3:32:39 am)
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Re: Villa-Lobos'
String Quartets, where??
I'm hearing more and more about the Villa Lobos'String Quartets,
but I cannot find them. Any info about players, where to get them,
etc. etc. would be very much appreciated.
Cordula
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Ellen
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Re: Villa-Lobos'
String Quartets, where??
I can find V-L No. 4 and No. 7 in the Schirmer catalog. One of the
few catalogs that also has Shostakovich Qts listed. You didn't ask,
but someone else did.
Of course whether any of these are in
print when you order them remains to be seen.
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JacquiOfStars
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(9/1/01 4:29:57 pm)
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love the
guarneri
i have their recording of the late beethoven string quartets that i
listen to frequently. little off the topic of chamber music
recordings but...the book INDIVISIBLE BY FOUR, written by the first
violinist of the group, arnold steinhardt, is a wonderful autobio,
you ought to get that too!
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GlenC
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(9/1/01 5:09:02 pm)
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Re: Villa-Lobos'
String Quartets, where??
I originally was introduced to them by the BMG classical music
club; I don't know if they still offer them, but their website used
to be bmgmusicservice.com. Here's a link to Amazon's
offerings:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=classical&field-keywords=villa-lobos%20string%20quartet&bq=1/ref=aps_more_cm_1/002-7027614-5013650
The
ones I have heard are Cuartetto Latinoamericano's. You might try
Volume 1, which contains Quartet #6, one of his most highly regarded
ones.
Villa-Lobos' quartets are fun, and full of burgeoning
interplay.
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mvotapek
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(9/1/01 6:21:40 pm)
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Re: Chamber
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For contrast to Emerson and Guarneri recordings, I recommend
finding the CD re-issues of the old Hollywood String Quartet
recordings...there is less emphasis on homogeneity of sound, and
more on individual and conversational communication. I admire the
groups previously mentioned in this thread but find myself sometimes
more "touched" by the Hollywood, the Cleveland Quartet, and also by
the Hagens...as well as the Juilliard (i haven't heard anything w/
their recent personnel changes), the Brentano, and the St. Lawrence
which has a great Schumann quartets CD. (Maybe i'm just going
through a glissando stage of my life?)
As for rep, if you
like early 20th century, dig into the Bartok quartets, early and
often, and Shoenberg's Verklaerte Nacht. For comparison that is
fascinating (and expensive) try a few different recordings of the
Shostakovich E minor Trio...some extreme differences out there from
various "authoritative" sources including the Borodin, Beaux Arts,
and an old recording w/ Shostakovich at the piano...all are legit,
imho.
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JuilliardRock
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(9/2/01 8:56:36 pm)
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Re: Chamber
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This might be redundant, but I second the suggestion of the
Hollywood Quartet...I have quite a few of their records, and they
are for me the most neglected group out there. That Verklart Nacht
rivals the Juilliard+Ma and Trampler as far as I'm concerned (though
Mann sounds great).
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Nicholas
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Re: Chamber
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I'm glad you mentioned the Cleveland Quartet - they were (and still
are) my personal favorite; but ONLY in their first eleven years,
with the original membership, from 1969 - Weilerstein, Salaff and
BOTH Katzes. As soon as one person changed, in 1980, I felt they
were never the same - IMHO. Fortunately, they left a number of
inspirational recordings (all LP's on RCA) from that early heyday;
unfortunately, none of those have been re-issued on CD. This is
probably one reason that their initial accomplishments are often
overlooked.
Obliquely related to chamber music - please
excuse my curiosity, and asking a personal question in public; (but
you didn't give an e-mail address in your profile). I can't help
wondering if by any chance you're related to the once-prominent
pianist Ralph Votapek. I remember that he recorded the Brahms Piano
Quintet, I think with the Paganini Quartet - in any case, I believe
it was the one with Temianka in it. I thought it was a good
recording. Anyway, just speculating! It's not such a common surname,
especially in chamber music circles...
One other question -
what precisely do you mean by "conservational communication?" That's
a new one on me - I guess you learn something new every day! Thanks
for indulging me-
-Nick
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ruthann
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Re: Chamber
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Aaron - the Beethoven Piano Trios are magic, esp the Archduke and
the Kakadu variations. There's a nice Chopin trio (I know you like
Chopin), two very different Saint-Saens trios. The Brahms B Major is
very exciting, and the Smetana Trio is one of my favorites. Happy
spending!
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mvotapek
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(9/4/01 6:45:10 pm)
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to Nick
Anderson
by "conversational communication," i meant hearing a musical
statement and responding to it with one's own musical statement...as
opposed to anticipating a musical statement and attempting to match
it. when it's done poorly it can sound like musical arguing (though
i suppose that too is technically a sort of conversational
communication), but when it's good, i believe it can have a
profundity beyond that of the elusive "perfect blend." Is this still
vague? I'm thinking Gospel chorus vs. Gregorian chant, or M*A*S*H
vs. Friends, or maybe Fleetwood Mac vs. ABBA...(i feel myself
digging deeper, i'd better quit) Mahler vs. Sibelius might be a more
fair metaphor.
as for the other thing, that depends on if he
owes you money or not. (yes, your hunch about dad was right.)
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Nicholas
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Outside-in...
Dear Mark,
If it had ever once crossed my mind, (and I swear
I'm not making this up), that you might have meant "conVerSational,"
I would have known exactly what you meant, and wouldn't have been
moved to ask! I think if you look back at your original (as yet
unedited) post, and my response to it, you'll see that it says
"conSerVational," (without the capitals, of course). I guess this is
why I've never been good at anagrams, etc. I thought that
"conSerVational communication" must be some specialized aesthetic
concept, like "eidetic perception." (When I first read your
response, I thought maybe you were kidding because you thought *I*
was kidding - except that you answered me in
earnest!)
Anyway, thanks for your input, and for confirming
my "suspicions" about the family ties! I really did like that
recording!
-Nick
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mvotapek
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(9/5/01 2:23:33 pm)
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oosp! i maed a
siyll mitsake
this gives me an excuse to learn how to edit posts
Edited by: mvotapek
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