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rocel
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(8/25/01 1:02:30 pm)
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nice things happen!
I found a beaten up bow in a junk shop last week, but thought it seemed like a nice stick, so bought it for £40. I just got it back from my bow restorer, and it turns out that it is 1930s french, and worth about £2000!
So I'm having a nice day!

CelloBass
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(8/25/01 2:21:40 pm)
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Re: nice things happen!
Rocel,

Grrrrratulations! I saw that you study in Cologne... please contact Allianz and take out an insurance policy for your bow. And don't play Schubert's Arpeggione before you have signed it. Sounds weird? Here comes my story. 25 years ago I bought a nice double bass bow at a store that just went bankrupted. I took 5 bows home to try them, and this one was so much better than the rest that I bought it. I payed 200$ which was pretty much because I was a student at that time. I played this bow for 20 years, and because all bassists who tried it pointed out that it would be a very good bow, I signed an insurance policy of 750$ for that bow. 2 years ago I practised Schubert's Arpeggione (yes, there is a bass version). Suddenly I heard a 'tic', and the bow had broken at its tip. I played just normally, no heavy spiccato :) I took it to my luthier and he told me that a bow can't be repaired when it is broken at its tip. And he gave me some information about my bow. I thought that two stars on a bow mean medium quality, and I thought it were a nickel-silver-bow. My luthier told me that 2 stars mean highest quality, and that it was a real and very good silver bow, at least 2000$ worth. It was a Matthias Thoma. Well... I had this insurance, and I got 750$, but of course I wasn't able to buy another bow of the same quality at this price. The wood of old bows sometimes gets dry and hard, and sometimes they crack even when played just normally.

PS. I think Allianz is the only company in Germany that offers insurances for musicians. The fee is 3% per year of the value of the instrument/bow. It is not cheap, but in my case they payed at once, without asking stupid questions about who was sitting on my bow etc. :)

Have you already tried it? How does it play?

Horst

rocel
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(8/25/01 4:31:51 pm)
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Re: nice things happen!
It actually plays beautifully- The bow that I normally play is a tubbs and weighs 84 grams- this one is only 74, but is so beautifully balanced, it seems almost as strong... I'm still feeling rather smug! ( and must get it insured- thanks for reminding me!)

Tracie Price 
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(8/25/01 8:48:16 pm)
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broken bows
Breaking a bow is horrible, I've done it twice. :(

However, you should know that they certainly CAN be repaired, I've had mine done, and I know Ryan has several great bows that have been repaired and play as well as ever. You just have to make sure you find a really good bow person to do it. You do, of course, lose a bunch of the historical value of the bow, but if you value it for it's playing ability, then the repair is a good idea. At least you can play on it again!

me4cello
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(8/28/01 3:02:25 am)
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Re: broken bows
I'll second that Tracie, I had my bow pinned at the tip after it broke in similar circumstances last year, it plays as good as ever, but isn't worth much any more - not that I wanted to sell it anyway.

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(8/28/01 6:15:42 pm)
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September 26 - 8PM UPN!!!!
Oh...different broken bow...

Kates bemoaned the fact that during a rehearsal with 2 other cellists, the tip of his Tourte bow snapped off! Yikes, his poor Montagnana, Tourte-less! :eek !


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CelloBass
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(8/28/01 7:22:02 pm)
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Re: September 26 - 8PM UPN!!!!
Hi all,

thanks a lot for your encouraging words about my bow. My luthier told me that the repair costs and the value of the bow would be in the same range, and he mentioned that it would be unreliable which means that I should expect that it will break again - at the tip. However, I could imagine that a small metal pin could work perfectly. I don't know why he didn't even mention that possiblity. I still have that bow and I will definitely ask another luthier. I found some bow makers in the Internet, one of them sent me some bows for trial when I was looking for a new one. Maybe it is more difficult to repair because it is a bass bow, German bass bows are tensed much more than cello bows, else the stick would touch the hair or the strings when playing fffortissimo.

Horst

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nice things happen! rocel 8/25/01 1:02:30 pm
    Re: nice things happen! rocel 8/25/01 4:31:51 pm
    Re: nice things happen! CelloBass 8/25/01 2:21:40 pm
       broken bows Tracie Price  8/25/01 8:48:16 pm
          Re: broken bows me4cello 8/28/01 3:02:25 am
             September 26 - 8PM UPN!!!! Paul Tseng ICS Staff  8/28/01 6:15:42 pm
                Re: September 26 - 8PM UPN!!!! CelloBass 8/28/01 7:22:02 pm



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