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Martine
M 
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(5/5/01 2:32:47 am)
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Kol
Nidrei
I started practising this
wonderful piece by Bruch, yesterday. Whom has played it too ?? And
what did you find the most difficult ?? Any tips&tricks for me
?? Recordings I must listen to ?? Please let me know !!
xxx
Martine.
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justinkagan1
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(5/5/01 8:09:48 am)
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Re: Kol
Nidrei
If you can get a hold of the Gary
Hoffman Kol Nidre from the Starker 75th birthday concert, do
so....quite the playing.
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Martine
M
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(5/5/01 8:55:51 am)
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nope...
Thanx for the suggestion, but
nope...  cd-store
here doesn't have it. The only Bruch that Napster-people offer at
this moment is Gary Karr (never heard of, who's he ? His name sounds
like a bass-player to me) anyways, perhaps do you have an MP3 of it
?? Would be great.
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Andrew
Victor
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(5/5/01 10:11:16 am)
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Re: Kol
Nidrei
It is a gorgeous piece of cello
music. The second half is more difficult than the first - because of
it's faster - and a couple of notes. So one must just learn to find
those notes in the little phrases they are part of. In the first
half, the higher notes really fall under the fingers, so it's a
matter of getting a fingering that fits YOU and sticking with
it.
Once you've solved these problems, the most difficult
thing (I think) is the third and fourth notes of the piece (and all
similar phrases) to get the third note to "cry out," and the fourth
note to "sigh." It can all be managed by varying bow
speed.
Andy
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SlavaBilly
Registered User
(5/5/01 10:49:40 am)
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Gary
Karr
is indeed a virtuoso bass player
based right here in British Columbia, Canada.
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Stefan79
Registered User
(5/5/01 4:01:35 pm)
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Re. Kol
Nidrei
I've played it, it's one of
my favourite pieces!  Well, when
I think about it, my favourite pieces at the moment are:
Dvorak,
concerto (I'm learning it at the moment)
Saint-Saëns, La Muse et
le Poète, op. 132
Bruch, Kol Nidrei
Miaskovskij, cello
concerto
Prokofieff, Symphony Concerto, op. 125
I'm
playing Kol Nidrei in a recital on 22 May. I'm also playing
Saint-Saëns' first cello/piano sonata in c minor.
/
Stefan
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Nicholas
Anderson
Registered User
(5/5/01 9:40:45 pm)
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Recording...
My favorite recording of Kol Nidrei
- for beauty, artistry, golden tone, musical interest, instrumental
mastery, and inner expressive soul - is Christine Walevska.
Unfortunately, you won't find it in CD stores, because it's never
been re-released on CD. It's an LP from the 1970's on the Philips
label, in which she plays the Bruch along with the Schumann Concerto
and Schelomo, with the Monte Carlo Opera Orchestra, conducted by
Eliahu Inbal. It's out of print, of course, but there are copies
floating around, and it shouldn't be too hard to find in used record
stores, internet auction sites, etc. It's probably even easier to
find it 'Over There,' because although she's American, her career
was always more prominent, popular and appreciated in Europe (where
you are) and South America than in the US. Anyway, the recording
would reward some hunting, as certain obscure gems definitely can,
from time to time.
-Nick
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Laura
Wichers
Moderator
(5/6/01 9:49:42 am)
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Re: Kol
Nidrei
I second Justin's recommendation of
Hoffman's Kol Nidrei performance. A fantastic
interpretation.
Others who have recorded Kol
Nidrei:
Hahna Chang - good playing, sounds just like Mischa
Maisky's version...
Mischa Maisky - good playing, sounds just
like Hahna Chang's version...
Fournier - a bit fast for my taste,
but still worth a listen
Ofra Harnoy - DO NOT bother... the piece
isn't about a cat being strangled, but Harnoy seems to think it
is.
Casals - on the fast side in the first half, recording
quality isn't the best though you can still learn from
it
Suggestion: Go to your local synagogue and ask if the
resident cantor can sing a bit of the music that inspired Bruch's
version of Kol Nidrei; find out about what it's about.
That's
all for me... too tired to jump back on the Kol Nidrei
soapbox.
Laura
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AaronReeves
Registered User
(5/6/01 9:23:23 pm)
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Re: Kol
Nidrei
It was also recorded by Jacqueline
du Pre (and I know that I probably spelled her first name wrong, my
brain is leaving me). I have it as part of the "Les Introuvables. .
." collection.
Aaron
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Andrea
Registered User
(5/7/01 3:28:47 pm)
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DuPre's
recording
I have a recording of DuPre playing
KolNidrei but it's with piano accompaniment and not orchestra, which
is too bad because the piano just doesn't capture the kind of beauty
there is in the orchestra part. Having played the piece myself I
guess I can say that a person who was going to play it only with
piano might appreciate this recording, but it's really not as nice
as Fournier's recording in my humble opion, but I've only heard
those two recordings.
Andrea
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Parker
Garvin
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(5/7/01 6:18:01 pm)
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the
opening presents challenges
I would say the opening has it's own
challenges - to get those fragments to sound like part of a longer
line, and to avoid "whining". I would say keep the vibrato loose and
the bow stroke smooth. If you've ever heard a cantar sing it the
sound is very full and open.
That's my two cents!
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Jon
Pegis
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(5/8/01 9:24:18 am)
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Kol
Nidre Recordings
There are two Lynn Harrell
recordings, but I do not know if they are still available. One was
released along with Dvorak, and then the other was a live concert in
Rome (with the Pope in attendance) in memory of the victims of the
Holocaust. It's not as good a recording acoustically as the first,
but it is a historical recording, and I believe includes a speech by
the Pope.
I played this piece for several years at a local
synagogue, and for me the hardest challenge was getting off to a
good start after sitting there for almost 2 hours and not being able
to play or warm up. The congregation was very much "in my face"
which added to the pre-performance jitters.
Jon Pegis
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Laura
Wichers
Moderator
(5/8/01 10:48:53 am)
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Re: Kol
Nidre Recordings
I can sympathize with have to sit
for a few hours before playing a note. I played Kol Nidrei four
years ago at a school collage concert where I sat in the dark
(couldn't even see the piano keys right next to me) for an hour and
then BOOM! The lights on one group went off, the lights on me came
on and I had to play. Nerve-racking, to say the least. At my senior
concerto concert, I played accompaniments for 3.5hrs in 100F with
thunderstorms (no AC), then had to play Lalo after a 5-min break.
That was definitely a learning experience (I learned never to do
that again).
Laura
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