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drcello
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(3/27/01 4:33:56 pm)
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Holes in the stage floor
We have cellists in our section who bring pocket knives and cut little holes in the stage floor for their endpins. This drives me bananas! Apparently our symphonic hall has no regulations about it, or they just gave up. Do any of your organizations forbid the cutting of little holes in the floor? Just curious.
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David Sanders 
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(3/27/01 6:05:52 pm)
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Re: Holes in the stage floor
Why don't you bring a file and offer to sharpen their endpins for them so they won't need to do that.

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(3/27/01 6:14:33 pm)
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Re: Holes in the stage floor
I never resorted to that. I just harpooned the floor with my cello. In retrospect, that loud booming thud which woke up my standpartner and turned the head of the snoozing conductor should have been an indication that it might not have been too healthy a practice for my cello, sturdy as it is.


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Ryan Selberg 
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(3/27/01 9:19:43 pm)
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Re: Holes in the stage floor
When we opened our symphony hall in 1979, the acoustics having been designed and supervised by Cyril Harris, one of the world's outstanding acousticians, we arrived on the oak-floored stage to find red indoor/outdoor carpeting under the cello and bass sections. When we sought an explanation, the stage manager (who was employed by the county, which owns and operates the facility), replied that he wanted to make sure we wouldn't make any marks in HIS new floor. Cyril Harris, who was present for the opening concerts, made his entrance and very quickly informed the MISinformed stage manager that the floor was designed for the endpins of the cellos and basses to stick into it to enhance the sound of the instruments. End of discussion! Period! The only time someone uses an endpin holder is when their endpins are in need of sharpening.

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Tracie Price 
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(3/27/01 9:33:44 pm)
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Abravanel Hall floor
Even dull endpins work in that floor! It has SO many holes it it!!

Good work Ryan and company!


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Steve Drake
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(3/27/01 11:10:34 pm)
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Re: Holes in the stage floor
We play in one venue here that has a very strong willed stage manager, and he absolutely forbids any endpins in his floor. Either a rockstop, some kind of board or strap, or you're out of there. Fortunately, our symphony stage manager cariies extra rock stops for just this sort of thing.

Cutting holes is just tacky. It's not hard or expensive to replace an endpin with something that'll stick in almost any floor without having to carve holes.

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Ginger Van 
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(5/1/01 9:41:58 pm)
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Re: Holes in the stage floor
Sorry to dredge up this topic, but I just had my first experience with this tonight! I can't understand how any reasonable person could think that digging a hole in any floor with a pocket knife would be considered acceptable. My "new" stand partner did this tonight at our rehearsal at a local college and kept digging several times during the rehearsal even after I offered him my rock-stop several times. (My own endpin is quite sharp enough to stay in the floor on its own.) Is this habit of digging really acceptable? How widespread is it?

Ginger

Andrew Victor
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(5/2/01 9:23:49 am)
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David Bice's New Harmony Carbon Fiber endpins
I recommend the "New Harmony" endpins. The points are so sharp that no wooden floor can resist, and the damage to the floor surface will be less than with a penknife.

Andy

Tracie Price 
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(5/2/01 2:23:06 pm)
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Re: David Bice's New Harmony Carbon Fiber endpins
I have one- it's swell. :)

And David is an all-around nice guy, so that makes it even better!

zambocello
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(5/2/01 9:48:42 pm)
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If they don't want holes in the floor.............
.......they don't want cellists.

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