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Stefan79
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(4/26/01 10:28:47 am)
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Playing
Bach's Chaconne on the cello
Has anyone played R. E.
Bockmühl's version of Bach's Chaconne (from Partita in d minor for
solo violin)? He wrote it to Charles Davidoff.
I'm starting on
the Dvorák concerto after I've played Saint-Saëns and I thought that
Chaconne could be a great way to improve my intonation. It's very
difficult, but it's mostly about having a big hand so that you will
be able to play the B-G-F# chord...it's soooo big... You're
supposed to play B on the g string with 1st finger, G on the d
string with 2nd finger and F# on the a string with 4th finger...! I
can do it, but not in a very comfortable way...
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Stefan
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Daniel
Ortbals 
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(4/26/01 12:20:15 pm)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne on the cello
I don't have the music for that, so
I may be way off base here, but couldn't you use thumb-1-3 for that
chord?
That piece is GREAT, though I can imagine it being
somewhat of a nightmare to play on cello!
Dan O
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Stefan79
Registered User
(4/27/01 5:50:10 am)
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Chaconne
Yes, I thought of that fingering to,
but then it becomes so much more difficult to play the chord before
and after...
It's very fun to work on!
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Stefan
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Paul
Tseng ICS Staff
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(4/27/01 12:10:25 pm)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne on the cello
This might sound a bit wacky, but
I've heard come cellists play the bottom two notes and then shift up
for the upper 2 notes. It doesn't sound that bad, but it's not
something I would have automatically thought of.
Listen to
Rostropovich's Saraband from the 6th suite.
Paul Tseng
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42
Registered User
(4/27/01 12:26:48 pm)
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where
can I get it?
Where can I find this
arrangement.... who is the publisher etc..... I think it could be a
lot of fun, and a BIG challenge to play this on cello.
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Stefan79
Registered User
(4/27/01 1:23:46 pm)
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Chaconne
It says "Verlag von Otto Forberg
in Leipzig" in my music, but I've never heard of them before...maybe
it's out of print...
If
you want me to send you a photocopy, please send me an email at
smoberg@hotmail.com
/ Stefan
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Drake
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(4/27/01 1:33:04 pm)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne on the cello
I have Lazlo Vargas version of this.
It's a monster piece to attempt. I tried once attempting it in
sections, but I never got the first few section up to snuff, so I
backed away from it.
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Stefan79
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(4/27/01 1:51:59 pm)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne on the cello
I keep telling myself over
and over again in the practice room "This MUST be easier than the
Prokofieff, op. 125 - This MUST be easier than the Prokofieff, op.
125"...
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Stefan
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Tracie
Price 
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(4/27/01 2:39:08 pm)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne on the cello
The cello quartet version by Varga
is fun if you get a chance to try it.
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Steve
Drake
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(4/27/01 3:27:30 pm)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne on the cello
Don't kid yourself - the prok is a
snap, in several respects, if you can pull off the chaconne well.
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Zaraak
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(4/27/01 7:32:43 pm)
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Get it
here...
You can download all the violin
sonatas and partitas arranged for cello here:
www.gmd.de/Misc/Music/scores/
They
are in Post Script format so you need to have a proper reader to
print them out.
Greg
Edited by: Zaraak
at: 4/27/01 7:32:43 pm
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zambocello
Registered User
(4/28/01 12:56:21 am)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne on the cello
Varga's transcription is very
thoughtfully done and practically edited. Probably one of the less
expensive publications, too. He publishes his own things at
Musicelli and they are now carried by Shar.
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Kate
Hopson
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(4/28/01 6:37:47 am)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne on the cello
I ran across the following Brahms
quote about the Chaconne last night. Thought it was interesting and
somewhat timely for this discussion. I am no music historian. Am
curious as to when Bach started to be revered as he is today. I was
under the impression it did not happen within his
lifetime.
"The Chaconne is in my opinion one of the most
wonderful and most incomprehensible pieces of music. Using the
technique adapted to a small instrument the man writes a whole world
of the deepest thoughts and most powerful feelings. If I could
picture myself writing, or even conceiving, such a piece, I am
certain that the extreme excitement and emotional tension would have
driven me mad."
Source: Letters of Clara Schumann and
Johannes Brahms 1853-1896, Vol II, ed. Berthold Litzmnn
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Zaraak
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(4/30/01 9:10:13 am)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne... and SPAM!!
Did anyone else in this thread
receive a spam from a Andrei Pricope soliciting the sale of the
complete Bach Sonatas and Partitas for cello? I'd just like to know
so I can report him to his ISP. And if he's reading this he should
know that he will be reported.
The problem everyone's having
with the pop-ups and now that I'm receiving spam are making this
board less enjoyable.
Greg
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Steve
Drake
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(4/30/01 10:22:32 am)
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Playing Bach's Chaconne... and SPAM!!
I've recently gotten some from a
Korean address - is this what you're talking about?
My MP3's
My Cello
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Daniel
Ortbals
Registered
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(4/30/01 10:31:36 am)
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Yeah I
got one also
Dan O
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dennisw
Registered User
(4/30/01 12:18:14 pm)
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Re:
Playing Bach's Chaconne on the cello
I do that for a Bb-7 chord in the c
minor allemande & it works great...
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Tracie
Price
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(4/30/01 12:33:36 pm)
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Re:
Playing Bach's Chaconne... and SPAM!!
I got one too.
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Zaraak
Registered User
(4/30/01 6:57:34 pm)
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Spam
The one I received was from
amati@onebox.com, advertising his company.
Greg
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Amati
Music
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(4/30/01 11:20:09 pm)
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Victims
of "spam", please read...
Dear cellists:
I apologize if
your sensibilities were offended by my emails concerning the
availability of transcriptions of the complete Bach Sonatas and
Partitas at http://www.amati.net/.
By the way, I was offering FREE copies of these, not
soliciting.
I guess I thought that if our community can take
unsolicited pop-up ads and members promoting performances (requiring
admission), CDs (not free), etc, we could also stomach announcements
in response to an intriguing topic/request. Oh, well, I was wrong -
maybe we should continue discussing doughnut varieties...
Once again, I apologize.
Worry not, the affected
emails have been deleted from my contact addresses. May I suggest
that you keep your email on ezboard private if you don't want anyone
to contact you?
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Zaraak
Registered User
(5/1/01 1:05:57 am)
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Victims of "spam", please read...
My problem is not with not with your
attempt to inform people that you have copies of these available for
people interested. If this is indeed the case, why not state it
directly on the board as do the others that you've mentioned?
Instead you decided to email the information directly to the people
in this thread. The pop-ups are simply a non-issue to me as I
disable JavaScript on my browser. As for the Shameless
Self-Promoters, they are doing that in a very public way and if I do
not want to see that I'll simply stop checking this forum. I do not
have that choice if someone is emailing it directly to me. This is
what the state of Illinois has to say on the subject, which is, I
believe, where you are
located:
www.spamlaws.com/state/il.html
The
reason that my email is not "private" on this group is so I can be
contacted by people who may need a clarification on something I may
have typed or need to get into contact with me for some other
reason, not to have someone try to sell me something.
Now
here, I may have to apologise. I *did* read that you were willing to
send the Chaconne free of charge and that the second edition will
soon be available. The wording of the email makes it seem that you
are indeed trying to sell the rest of the sonatas and partitas
though.
May I suggest that you only email those that request
information from you. There are people out there that are more feral
about this issue than I.
Greg
Edited by: Zaraak
at: 5/1/01 1:05:57
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