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cellofreak1286
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(5/28/01 5:28:18 pm)
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cello to violin
At my last school concert I had a short opportunity to "play" on a violin. I found it very easy so I have been thinking about playing violin a bit (it will NEVER take priority over cello) this summer. Will this interfere with my cello technique? Is there anything I should be cautious about?

Andrew Victor
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(5/29/01 9:44:08 am)
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Re: cello to violin
Many, many years ago, I went the other way: from being a violin player to studying cello. I never had any trouble distinguishing the fingerings and strings (one from the other) in sight reading bass clef, and instantly larned tenor clef. Treble clef was a natural - as a violinist. The "double-treble clef" I'm still strugggling with that - trying to sight read, I can't decide whether to try to play viola on the cello or just read it as tenor clef one note down. When I was in my teens I could play a violin in cello position and sight read violin music that way - but about 20 years later when I tried that again I found that if my left hand is in cello position, my natural read is the cello fingerings in bass clef. If my left hand is extended in violin/viola position, my natural read is violin treble celf. Both of these are "autonomous" "black-box" transformations; any other clef requires some thought.

The thing that plagued me for a long time was confusion of the bow holds. It is important to hold the violin and cello bows differently. The uses are much the same, but done differently. I think the single key to the differences in the bow holds and strokes is in this simple statement:
"The cello bow is typically held aproximately perpendicular to the right arm axis. The violin bow would typically start out at about a 30-degree angle to that axis, changing toward perpendicularity as needed for particular stroks.
The bow is more easily controlled if the arm is above it, as it is with the cello. The violin bow can be more easily controlled the more of the arm you can keep above it while you are playing - this is a prime reason for using a Russian bow hold and initially intersecting the index finger with the violin bow between the second and third joint. This will allow you to use the wrist joint very naturally in bowing. Keep the pinky tip on the top of the violin bow (although it can be lifted when not needed) and it is better to bend the pinky a bit instaed of keeping it straight."

The left arm posture on violin/viola is unatural and "twisted" - compared to cello which I consider natural and "straight." This twisting is necessary to get a straight enough "line" through hand-wrist-forearm to keep consistent strength in the fingers and support a smooth vibrato. Because of this twist, the natural fulcrum and axis for vibrato on violin and viola are different than on cello. You will see how these work out for you as you gain proficiency on the instrument. If you aready have a decent vibrato on cello, you will probably start playing violin with a vibrato - and can probably go from there. I know for me, already having a vibrato on the violin when I started cello - I started it with a vibrato - even before my first cello lesson (but the teacher quickly fixed it). As with cello, the left elbow should move as your fingers go from one string to another.

More power to you!

Andy

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