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Martine
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(5/5/01 2:32:47 am)
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Kol
Nidrei
I started practising this wonderful piece by Bruch, yesterday.
Whom has played it too ?? And what did you find the most difficult
?? Any tips&tricks for me ?? Recordings I must listen to ??
Please let me know !!
xxx Martine.
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justinkagan1
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(5/5/01 8:09:48 am)
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Re: Kol
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If you can get a hold of the Gary Hoffman Kol Nidre from the
Starker 75th birthday concert, do so....quite the playing.
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Martine
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(5/5/01 8:55:51 am)
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nope...
Thanx for the suggestion, but nope...  cd-store
here doesn't have it. The only Bruch that Napster-people offer at
this moment is Gary Karr (never heard of, who's he ? His name sounds
like a bass-player to me) anyways, perhaps do you have an MP3 of it
?? Would be great.
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Andrew
Victor
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(5/5/01 10:11:16 am)
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It is a gorgeous piece of cello music. The second half is more
difficult than the first - because of it's faster - and a couple of
notes. So one must just learn to find those notes in the little
phrases they are part of. In the first half, the higher notes really
fall under the fingers, so it's a matter of getting a fingering that
fits YOU and sticking with it.
Once you've solved these
problems, the most difficult thing (I think) is the third and fourth
notes of the piece (and all similar phrases) to get the third note
to "cry out," and the fourth note to "sigh." It can all be managed
by varying bow speed.
Andy
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SlavaBilly
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(5/5/01 10:49:40
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Gary Karr
is indeed a virtuoso bass player based right here in British
Columbia, Canada.
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Stefan79
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(5/5/01 4:01:35
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Re. Kol
Nidrei
I've played it, it's one of my favourite pieces!  Well, when
I think about it, my favourite pieces at the moment are:
Dvorak,
concerto (I'm learning it at the moment)
Saint-Saëns, La Muse et
le Poète, op. 132
Bruch, Kol Nidrei
Miaskovskij, cello
concerto
Prokofieff, Symphony Concerto, op. 125
I'm
playing Kol Nidrei in a recital on 22 May. I'm also playing
Saint-Saëns' first cello/piano sonata in c minor.
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Stefan
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Nicholas
Anderson
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(5/5/01 9:40:45 pm)
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Recording...
My favorite recording of Kol Nidrei - for beauty, artistry, golden
tone, musical interest, instrumental mastery, and inner expressive
soul - is Christine Walevska. Unfortunately, you won't find it in CD
stores, because it's never been re-released on CD. It's an LP from
the 1970's on the Philips label, in which she plays the Bruch along
with the Schumann Concerto and Schelomo, with the Monte Carlo Opera
Orchestra, conducted by Eliahu Inbal. It's out of print, of course,
but there are copies floating around, and it shouldn't be too hard
to find in used record stores, internet auction sites, etc. It's
probably even easier to find it 'Over There,' because although she's
American, her career was always more prominent, popular and
appreciated in Europe (where you are) and South America than in the
US. Anyway, the recording would reward some hunting, as certain
obscure gems definitely can, from time to time.
-Nick
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Laura
Wichers
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(5/6/01 9:49:42 am)
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Re: Kol
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I second Justin's recommendation of Hoffman's Kol Nidrei
performance. A fantastic interpretation.
Others who have
recorded Kol Nidrei:
Hahna Chang - good playing, sounds just
like Mischa Maisky's version...
Mischa Maisky - good playing,
sounds just like Hahna Chang's version...
Fournier - a bit fast
for my taste, but still worth a listen
Ofra Harnoy - DO NOT
bother... the piece isn't about a cat being strangled, but Harnoy
seems to think it is.
Casals - on the fast side in the first
half, recording quality isn't the best though you can still learn
from it
Suggestion: Go to your local synagogue and ask if the
resident cantor can sing a bit of the music that inspired Bruch's
version of Kol Nidrei; find out about what it's about.
That's
all for me... too tired to jump back on the Kol Nidrei
soapbox.
Laura
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AaronReeves
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(5/6/01 9:23:23
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It was also recorded by Jacqueline du Pre (and I know that I
probably spelled her first name wrong, my brain is leaving me). I
have it as part of the "Les Introuvables. . ."
collection.
Aaron
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Andrea
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DuPre's
recording
I have a recording of DuPre playing KolNidrei but it's with piano
accompaniment and not orchestra, which is too bad because the piano
just doesn't capture the kind of beauty there is in the orchestra
part. Having played the piece myself I guess I can say that a person
who was going to play it only with piano might appreciate this
recording, but it's really not as nice as Fournier's recording in my
humble opion, but I've only heard those two
recordings.
Andrea
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Parker
Garvin
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(5/7/01 6:18:01 pm)
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the opening
presents challenges
I would say the opening has it's own challenges - to get those
fragments to sound like part of a longer line, and to avoid
"whining". I would say keep the vibrato loose and the bow stroke
smooth. If you've ever heard a cantar sing it the sound is very full
and open.
That's my two cents!
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Jon
Pegis
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(5/8/01 9:24:18 am)
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Kol Nidre
Recordings
There are two Lynn Harrell recordings, but I do not know if they
are still available. One was released along with Dvorak, and then
the other was a live concert in Rome (with the Pope in attendance)
in memory of the victims of the Holocaust. It's not as good a
recording acoustically as the first, but it is a historical
recording, and I believe includes a speech by the Pope.
I played
this piece for several years at a local synagogue, and for me the
hardest challenge was getting off to a good start after sitting
there for almost 2 hours and not being able to play or warm up. The
congregation was very much "in my face" which added to the
pre-performance jitters.
Jon Pegis
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Laura
Wichers
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(5/8/01 10:48:53 am)
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Recordings
I can sympathize with have to sit for a few hours before playing a
note. I played Kol Nidrei four years ago at a school collage concert
where I sat in the dark (couldn't even see the piano keys right next
to me) for an hour and then BOOM! The lights on one group went off,
the lights on me came on and I had to play. Nerve-racking, to say
the least. At my senior concerto concert, I played accompaniments
for 3.5hrs in 100F with thunderstorms (no AC), then had to play Lalo
after a 5-min break. That was definitely a learning experience (I
learned never to do that again).
Laura
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jo
Bow
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(5/12/01 1:01:20 pm)
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Re: Kol Nidre
Recordings
Hi. I thought that all of you might be interested in Matthew Owens'
(cellist/composer) original version of Loh Nidrei.
It is the most
beautiful and expressive solo version I have ever heard. For those
of you who would like a score or recording......write:
M.Owens
P.M.B. 31
1678 Shattuck Ave.
Berkeley, Ca.
94709
This was recorded first in 1999.
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