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klimbim78
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(5/31/01 11:32:36 am)
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Help with strings?
Hi!
new to cello, and have a rather bright-sounding instrument. It's a new cello, and rather cheap.

My question is - would like some strings to take the edge off the brightness, and was looking at Pirastro Aricores and Pirastro Synoxa. The main draws were that these strings claimed to be warm and dark, and the fact that they are more affordable! Can anyone who has tried these strings give some comments? Ease of playing, and whether they really ARE darker and warmer than normal steel strings?

Thanks so much!

lblake 
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(6/2/01 8:36:47 am)
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What strings do you have on there now?
It's possible that there may also be steel strings that are warmer and darker.
For perlon strings that are less expensive, I've seen and heard of a lot more people using Thomastik Dominants than the strings you mentioned...

You're on the right track with the synthetic core being darker... but there are drawbacks, too - especially response, usually. Just something to keep in mind.

Sorry, I don't have any experience with the ones you mentioned. I have played on Dominants once, but on an especially bad rental cello, and I think the cello made such a difference, I don't know how much could be attributed to the strings.

klimbim78
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(6/2/01 10:09:43 am)
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Re: Help with strings?
Hey thanks for the reply!
I have Thomastik Superflexibles on right now.....didn't choose them, they came with the cello. I think they're rope core...


what do you mean response might be affected with synthetic core? I sometimes have a bit of trouble getting my G-string to move.....is that what you mean?

I'm really just a beginner, so maybe that's just me...

lblake 
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(6/3/01 9:19:55 pm)
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Re: Help with strings?
By response, I mean the time between when you start bowing on a string, and when it starts sounding (properly). The lower strings are typically the strings where we have problems with response. That's why you'll see so many more rope-core strings for the lower two. Rope core is the fastest-responding core type. Gut is the slowest. Perlon (or synthetic gut) is typically next slowest. I think Cellos2go.com has good information about different string materials and their characteristics. Shar does, too.

Still, strings are one of the extremely difficult things about cello to adjust, because one string may perform very differently from cello to cello. Also, one string may perform differently on one cello, depending on the other strings on that same cello! For example, my G and C may sound or respond differently when I change the type or the tension of my A or D.

Your best bet is to find other cellists who have old strings you could try. Where are you located? I probably have a few you could try... e-mail me at blakeemail@yahoo.com if you would like to try some.

If what you have on now are superflexibles, you might actually want to try some less-expensive steel strings, still. Steel strings tend to have quicker response, and last longer which is part of why so many of us stick with them.

Jargar on top (A&D) and Prim on the bottom (G&C) is a pretty common set up that is inexpensive and quite nice on many cellos. You might want to start with that.

Well.... good luck! and, be careful! accessorizing can be addictive!!! (ahem... admitting the problem doesn't get you very far, either.)

klimbim78
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(6/4/01 10:07:57 pm)
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Re: Help with strings?
about it being expensive...don't I know it! I actually have been playing double bass for 2 years now, and recently bought a set of bass strings which set me back quite a bit.

It is incredibly generous of you to offer to lend me strings to try out....I got the same response from Ellen from cellos2go....but unfortunately I live in Singapore, in South East Asia...it's a very modern city when it comes to fashion labels, computers and creature comforts, but starved for old-world music related things.

MaryJM 
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(6/9/01 2:38:09 pm)
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Pro-art strings
I recently switched from all D'Addario Helicore strings to all D'Addario Pro-Arte (perlon core, medium) strings. I, like you, wanted a warmer sound, and while I heard many people recommend Thomastik Dominants I went with these because of the cheaper price. To get silver windings on the G + C stings of the Dominants would have been much more costly than the Pro-Artes. I love them so much more than what I had. My cello used to sound very bright, loud and somewhat harsh. These are warm and mello. I have not had any difficulty in playing them.

Mary

elgee
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(6/29/01 9:33:57 am)
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Re: Help with strings?
Hello, I also have a student cello, which have quite a bright sound and is rather cheap too. I used to have the Larsen Soloist A, D with the Permanent G, C. But they made the sound too much brighter. After I had tried many other strings. I found Larsen non-Soloist A, D with the Obligato G, C can produce a warm but not too dark sound on my cello. I love them. You don't have to worry too much for the responses, they are just as the Belcanto Gold, ON MY CELLO.

Good Luck.

Elgee

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Help with strings? klimbim78 5/31/01 11:32:36 am
    Re: Help with strings? elgee 6/29/01 9:33:57 am
    Pro-art strings MaryJM  6/9/01 2:38:09 pm
    Re: Help with strings? klimbim78 6/4/01 10:07:57 pm
    Re: Help with strings? klimbim78 6/2/01 10:09:43 am
       Re: Help with strings? lblake  6/3/01 9:19:55 pm
    What strings do you have on there now? lblake  6/2/01 8:36:47 am



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