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harmonygal
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(7/6/01 4:31:41 pm)
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After highschool...???
As a junior in Highschool..nows the time I'm supposed to begin looking for schools. The trouble is I now already that I want to major in music, but I have no Idea where I should begin when it comes to looking for a school that will sastify my only requirment as of now... it have a good music program!!! Any comments or suggestions about school, conservatory or non-conservatory, would be great!! Thank you, R.

Laura Wichers
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(7/6/01 4:55:09 pm)
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You need to consider a few key questions to help you narrow your school search, as there are many good musical schools.

1. Tuition... how much can you (or you and your parents) afford? Are loans an option?

2. In-state, out-of-state or private... generally in-state schools are cheaper than out-of-state schools, and private schools tend to be the most expensive.

3. Program type... are you looking for a strictly musical environment? if so, a conservatory or an intense music school (such as Peabody or Eastman) might be a good choice. if you want a liberal arts education in addition to your musical studies, music schools that are part of a university or college might be a good choice.

4. Teacher... an important category. Who do you want to study with? Before you get your heart set on a school, TAKE A LESSON with the teacher(s) you would study with to get a feel for their teaching style.


Laura, Western Michigan University

Stefan79
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(7/6/01 6:12:48 pm)
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I really can't understand how you guys can afford to pay all that money for your education...here in Sweden, all the education is free...we don't pay a single $ for five year at a music academy...
I guess this has something to do with the fact that I always run out of money at the end of the month...:/

/ Stefan

Laura Wichers
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(7/6/01 8:45:39 pm)
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YOU PEOPLE ARE SOOOOOOOOO LUCKY.

But how does the government pay for the institutions to operate? Does a portion of your taxes go to the schools? That's how it works for the state schools here... which is why if you live in Michigan and go to a public Michigan accredited school, it is less expensive than if you lived in New York and wanted to go to a public Michigan school.


Laura

Stefan79
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(7/7/01 12:56:25 am)
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Yes, you're right, we pay for the schools with taxes...and I must say that it's getting quite expensive...! :eek If I play a concert and get, let's say 1000 SKR (about $100), I would have to pay about 33%in taxes...:eek Sweden has the highest taxes in the world...on the other hand, everything is free...you have free dental care until you're 18 (after that it's reeeally expensive...), and you have (almost) free medical care to. All the education, except for private schools, are free.

I thought I read something about you studying in Finland for a year, what happened to that? You should come to Sweden instead...:) We have two great teachers in Malmö, Mats Rondin (who's playing with Maisky and Rostropovich at the new Riga Cello Festival this fall) and Hege Waldeland-Lörstad (my teacher). You can read about them at: http://www.mhm.lu.se/teachers/Hege_WaldelandE..html & www.mhm.lu.se/teachers/Mats_RondinE.html

Sure, the Sibelius Academy is great. But I keep hearing things like the Arto Noras cello group, sitting in a room with their teacher playing Popper's Elfentanz and using a clock to see who can play it at the highest tempo...I think it's a bit silly...:/ I played in masterclass for Marko Ylönen, who also teaches there, and he was great! :) I played Prokofieff, Op. 125, a piece he'd never played...and he sight-read some of the runs in the first movement...! I couldn't belive my eyes! :eek

I'm thinking of studying a year in America, which schools would you suggest? And what teachers?

/ Stefan

Daniel Ortbals 
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(7/7/01 1:23:04 am)
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Re: After highschool...???
I second everything Laura said.

Plus, exploring the teacher side a little further, who you study with should pretty much be the deciding factor of whether or not you go to a particular school. Of course, you always want to be studying with someone with whom you get along (and also respect as a teacher), but in the long run it really matters very little where you get your Bachelor's degree. That is, don't go to a school based on reputation alone. If you have a good teacher, who cares where you are? In fact, the music degree itself doesn't really land you anything. It's all about how you play in the end. Find someone who can take you where you want to be, and go with that person.

Dan O

Laura Wichers
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(7/7/01 8:47:12 am)
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The study in Finland is still a possibility. I'm thinking of taking a year between my 4th and 5th years at college and studying abroad somewhere. Where? Don't know yet!

There are all sorts of schools here. Do you want to go to a conservatory or a university? Big city or little city? Any particular areas that interest you (ie, New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles)? Of course I have to put in a plug for Western Michigan University, my school. It's great!


Laura

Stefan79
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(7/7/01 11:48:37 am)
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Do you have a five year education at the uni? We have five years, three for a BMus degree and five for a MMus degree.
I really haven't given it that much thought, where I would like to study...I don't know anything about the playing standard over there, how good do you have to be to get a place at, let's say, your school? Do you know if Aldo Parisot still teaches at Yale? I don't remember reading anything about that in the article about him...?
What's the difference between a conservatory and a university? We have both here in Sweden, but there's no difference here...

/ Stefan

Laura Wichers
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(7/7/01 4:53:17 pm)
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Some schools offer a five-year double degree program, where you earn a Bachelor of Music and either a Bachelor of Science or a Bachelor of Art. I don't know of any that offer the BM and MM in five years, but that doesn't mean there isn't anything like that available.

How good do you have to be? It depends on what school you audition for! My school is somewhat competitive, not as competitive as University of Michigan but not as uncompetitive as any of the other Michigan schools. For places like Eastman, Juilliard, Cleveland, you need to be very good. "Good" is relative, of course. My definition of "good" probably isn't the same as yours.

A university typically offers and/or requires a liberal arts education in addition to your musical studies. Conservatories usually only require the musical studies, although some do require some general education courses. You'd have to check with individual schools for specifics. Conservatories tend to be more competitive, but that's a trend, not a rule.

As far as I know, Parisot is still teaching at Yale.


Laura

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After highschool...??? harmonygal 7/6/01 4:31:41 pm
    Re: After highschool...??? Daniel Ortbals  7/7/01 1:23:04 am
    Re: After highschool...??? Laura Wichers 7/6/01 4:55:09 pm
       Re: After highschool...??? Stefan79 7/6/01 6:12:48 pm
          Re: After highschool...??? Laura Wichers 7/6/01 8:45:39 pm
             Re: After highschool...??? Stefan79 7/7/01 12:56:25 am
                Re: After highschool...??? Laura Wichers 7/7/01 8:47:12 am
                   Re: After highschool...??? Stefan79 7/7/01 11:48:37 am
                      Re: After highschool...??? Laura Wichers 7/7/01 4:53:17 pm



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