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Lucy Clifford
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(7/2/01 1:29:36 am)
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Popper's poppin!
I decided that as I'm entering the 'real world' of professional music, I should 'hone' my technique to new cello-witch surpassing levels. I am resurrecting the Bach Suites, and also dear old Popper.

No matter what you say, Popper is worth practicing (as well as excerpts). When I was undergrad. I had to play 1 Popper in each school recital, and I hated it, but I'm glad that I did. I'm really enjoying looking over all my teacher's markings in my Hohschule. deja vu :)

I'm now revising, systematically, the ones which I covered in my student days, and I intend to learn a couple of new ones as well, before my job starts up in September!

Anyway, my old fogey's message to all you students: work on your Popper....yes, maybe nobody will ever pay you to play Popper, but I'm sure that if you persevere it will one day pay off :) :) :) :)

ON EDITING: what a pompous idiot I sound - it always happens when I'm in a reflective frame of mind....please don't take it too seriously!

Edited by: Lucy Clifford at: 7/2/01 1:31:13 am
David Sanders 
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(7/2/01 8:48:26 am)
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Did you ever tell us where you will be playing in the Fall?
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mellow cello
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(7/2/01 3:18:03 pm)
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Popper
Hi, I'm not really 'clued up' on the world of music. I was just wondering - you all seem to dislike Popper....why? I've just started working on a piece by him - Gavotte No 2 in D major. I think it's really good.
Is it the same Popper we're talking about? Have you ever heard of this piece? Any tips for playing it? tell me what you think of Popper and what's wrong with him.

Thank you very much!!!!!!
Love, Hannah xxxxxxxx

Laura Wichers
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(7/2/01 4:46:48 pm)
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Re: Popper
Usually when people profess a dislike of Popper, they are thinking of the 40 etudes in his cello High School book. They can be very challenging, not to mention frustrating, aggravating, irritating, nauseating... I could go on. But they can also be very beneficial to your overall technique.

I like playing Popper most of the time, but on those days when no matter what I do everything sounds like crud, Popper is just about the last thing I'll play.


Laura

Lucy Clifford
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(7/2/01 4:54:31 pm)
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Re: Did you ever tell us where you will be playing in the Fall?
Shall we say a fairly large, and moderately illustrious ensemble, based in the greater London area. I have been 'networking' with other orchestra members, and have discovered that there are many other 'offshoot' activities in which I can participate - people interested in Baroque music, education programmes etc.....as well as being drafted into a pit orchestra.

Lucy Clifford
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(7/2/01 5:04:59 pm)
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the very one!
Yes, it is the same David Popper. He wrote a whole lot of fun(?) pieces of a certain 19th Century genre, including the Gavotte. He wrote a 'bible', called the High School of Cello Playing, (40 'studies') which explore a huge amount of technique. Many start in a deceptively easy fashion, and the crunch comes about 5 lines in. IMHO, the hard bits are as hard as anything, but correct me if I'm wrong.

However, many teachers, myself included, start first with the Fifteen Etudes with Melody and Harmony (in two parts!) which are delightful to play, and explore many areas of technique. Then I move on to the High School - not teaching all of the etudes from 1 - 40, but picking out certain lines, or pairs of lines, or segments, which I feel may be helpful to my students at the time.

My teacher when I was undergrad. and before, used to give me two lines of an etude per week, which I had to memorise and perfect. It took time, but I now know several of the etudes by heart! When I started lessons with another teacher it came as a shock that they used to issue a whole etude at a lesson, and for a while I struggled incredibly trying to learn all this awful stuff! Luckily my previous teacher had made sure that I really loved these etudes and realised how useful they were, otherwise I'd have regarded them as a horror and a trial like many of my fellow students.

Anyway, I really enjoy all Popper. If I have a 'tip' it would be to learn it very thoroughly in small segments, and really make sure that you almost exaggerate to important points in each etude.

That's all for now

bridge 
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(7/3/01 9:41:25 am)
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"Enquiring" Minds Want to Know
C'mon, specificity is a virtue. ;)

David Sanders 
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(7/3/01 10:41:29 am)
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Re: Did you ever tell us where you will be playing in the Fall?
As in London, England? Somehow I thought you were in Virginia!

Lucy Clifford
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(7/4/01 2:46:37 am)
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London, England
Yes, I do live in those green and pleasant envions. If you are familiar with 'The Bill', the world's best TV programme, and familiar with the environs in which it is filmed, you'll have a pretty good idea of the sort of area where I live.

Sorry - 'inquiring', I always get that wrong in a hurry. As soon as the website has been updated with my name/bio I'll advise the link ;)

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Popper's poppin! Lucy Clifford 7/2/01 1:29:36 am
    Popper mellow cello 7/2/01 3:18:03 pm
       the very one! Lucy Clifford 7/2/01 5:04:59 pm
       Re: Popper Laura Wichers 7/2/01 4:46:48 pm
    Did you ever tell us where you will be playing in the Fall? David Sanders  7/2/01 8:48:26 am
       Re: Did you ever tell us where you will be playing in the Fall? Lucy Clifford 7/2/01 4:54:31 pm
          Re: Did you ever tell us where you will be playing in the Fall? David Sanders  7/3/01 10:41:29 am
             London, England Lucy Clifford 7/4/01 2:46:37 am
          "Enquiring" Minds Want to Know bridge  7/3/01 9:41:25 am



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