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justinkagan1 
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(6/23/01 7:25:51 am)
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Outdoor concert pitfalls of Biblical proportions...
So in plagues on all your houses news....
Last night we played concert #2 of the Met Opera NYC Parks concerts, this one on Staten Island, better known as the major repository for city garbage...one of the biggest landfills in history is there. Started out on a typical NYC Friday rush hour bang note....almost an hour for the bus to get from Lincoln Center to 42 St (which is a mile for you out-of-towners), another hour to arrive at the park. For some odd reason the Met management schedules this concert every year on this day, which is noted for the congregation of June bugs. I'd heard stories but this was incredible....they're attracted to the lights, of which there are many on the stage, and all the while they're mating and then die, plummeting to the earth. It was like a hailstorm of these fat little suckers...they're benign, of course, but profuse, and by the end of the first act of Tosca the stage was literally covered. As much music from people swatting them out of their hair, away from their instruments, stands getting whacked inadvertantly, feet stomping to smash 'em, ughs everywhere when they get in your hair, suit, down your shirt. Unbelievable. One landed in my cello, a buzz bomb down the f-hole. By the third act cello quartet things had quieted down considerably. and don't even get me started on the humidity there...my case was wet by evening's end, and by the end of the first act the bow hair was useless. there were maybe 1,000 people there, which is a pittance compared to the Central Park concert of last week, where there are closer to 75K fans, as Dorie can attest...they were everywhere, like June bugs. Next year we're planning on donning bee-keeper outfits.
Oh, BTW, the concert went fine.

DoDahlberg
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(6/23/01 9:04:56 am)
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J, did u get June outta there?...
or are you going to keep her as a pet?

Dorie

TerryM 
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(6/23/01 9:50:52 am)
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It adds a whole new dimension...
to that complaint, "My cello seems to have developed a buzzing sound..."

Terry

drcello
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(6/23/01 10:44:33 am)
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If you're gonna play outside...
You have got to have a second, el cheapo instrument and bow. Simply essential!!!! Even just the humidity can make your cello come unglued.

Marshall C. St. John
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sarah schenkman
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(6/23/01 12:59:51 pm)
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Outdoor cheapo cello really is essential. I hate outdoor concerts yet for the second year in a row I"ve agreed to do the July 3rd &4th concerts with Charleston Symphony in Cashiers, NC. Redeeming features - it's in the mountains and cooler than here in Sav., and their conductor is not too objectionable.

Ryan Selberg 
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(6/23/01 2:17:49 pm)
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Re: Outdoor concert pitfalls of Biblical proportions...
Even as I write this, the management of the Utah Symphony is trying to raise approximately $350,000 in order to have the USO play for the opening ceremonies of the 2002 Winter Games here in Salt Lake City next February. They will be held in the football stadium of the U of Utah. Why will it cost $350,000, you ask?

First of all, February in Salt Lake City is COLD, and very possibly (hopefully for the competitors in the ski events) SNOWY! It will be impossible for the orchestra to actually PLAY live, so all music used will have to be pre-recorded. There is no specific provision for this type of recording in the AFM contracts, as I understand it, so negotiations are happening to cover it. Then, there is the necessity of renting junk instruments to hold while we mime the performance in our formal black parkas and black gloves. All of this effort for the possibility that we MIGHT appear on world-wide TV for maybe 15 seconds.

The Mormon Tabernacle Choir has already been invited (and has accepted) to perform, and if the USO decides not to, for whatever reason, the international youth orchestra that is being assembled to perform during the Olympics is standing by willingly, without AFM restrictions. Which would make us look bad, as people would say "why isn't the USO doing it, the kids are willing, why aren't they?" A no win situation. And SLOC (Salt Lake Olympic Committee) wants us there, but is making NO funding available for us. It is all on our heads to raise the $$.

So when you turn in to the opening ceremonies next February, you will have a better understanding of who is there and why. I don't think I am all that interested in my 15 seconds of fame, let alone 15 minutes, sitting in the cold (and maybe snow, which would make us very visible, right-can't you see the wonderful followup poster of the USO playing with a light dusting of snow on our shoulders and instruments, brass players' lips stuck to their mouthpieces!) holding a cello and faking whatever music we are supposed to be playing. (Ellen, do you have 8 carbon fiber cellos for rent, that could be later sold for a premium as having been participants in the Winter Olympics!)

Ryan, whose hands are turning blue just thinking about it!

Steve Drake
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(6/23/01 10:45:13 pm)
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This sounds like a concert we did at a (then) new park in Bowling Green, Ky. We found out during the concert that the park was adjacent to the new sewage treatment facility. Both by the odor, and the number of bugs. At the time, I was the on the last stand of cellos, and I was right underneath the lights, and as it got dark, the number of bugs and the stench increased exponentially. I ended up leaving the stage early that night, as did most of the bass section and half of the cellos. We haven't played there since.

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MsCheryl 
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(6/24/01 8:57:44 am)
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Hey Justin
Are you playing the Cooper River outdoor Met concert? We live so close that we can hear the sound from our backyard sometimes. Let me know - maybe we could actually meet you!!!!

justinkagan1 
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(6/25/01 8:06:20 am)
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Re: Hey Cheryl
Hi...unfortunately not going to play that concert, but will be at the New Haven, CT concert on Wednesday, a bit more of a schlep. We'll meet one day!

sarah schenkman
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(6/25/01 12:34:50 pm)
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playing out side in feb?!!
Ryan - I wouldn't even want to do that here in a much warmer climate.

Ryan Selberg 
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(6/25/01 5:01:32 pm)
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Re: playing out side in feb?!!
There are definitely some issues to work out, but it is a no-win situation as I understand it I will be getting more involved with the contractual issues as we get closer, as I am on the Orchestra Committee, and head the Artistic Advisory Committee, under which this whole shebang falls. The Union will have its sayso regarding the finances of the pre-recording.

At least we will be able to thaw out the second week of the Olympics, as SLOC has booked our hall and we are only playing concerts during week one. We will then head to So. Calif. during the second week.

Ryan

"....going where no orchestra has gone before..........."

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Outdoor concert pitfalls of Biblical proportions... justinkagan1  6/23/01 7:25:51 am
    playing out side in feb?!! sarah schenkman 6/25/01 12:34:50 pm
       Re: playing out side in feb?!! Ryan Selberg  6/25/01 5:01:32 pm
    Hey Justin MsCheryl  6/24/01 8:57:44 am
       Re: Hey Cheryl justinkagan1  6/25/01 8:06:20 am
    Re: Outdoor concert pitfalls of Biblical proportions... Steve Drake 6/23/01 10:45:13 pm
    Re: Outdoor concert pitfalls of Biblical proportions... Ryan Selberg  6/23/01 2:17:49 pm
    outdoor concerts sarah schenkman 6/23/01 12:59:51 pm
    J, did u get June outta there?... DoDahlberg 6/23/01 9:04:56 am
       It adds a whole new dimension... TerryM  6/23/01 9:50:52 am
          If you're gonna play outside... drcello 6/23/01 10:44:33 am



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