Internet Cello Society Forums
    > Young Cellists
        > Higher up my intonation?
New Topic    Add Reply

Next Topic >>
Author Comment
Spookyho 
Registered User
Posts: 6
(7/7/01 10:37:00 am)
Reply
Higher up my intonation?
I am not good at intonation!
How can I have some improvement when i play the extended position?
Also I don't no how to tune my cello well, can anyone here give me some ways to improve?
Cos after having 1 lesson for next week, I will have lessons again til Semptember!
Thanks for advice!^^

AaronReeves
Registered User
Posts: 201
(7/7/01 4:34:37 pm)
Reply
Re: Higher up my intonation?
Keep in mind that I am assuming that you are a beginner, so if any of this you already know, just disregard it and go on to another part of my post. :)

Tune slowly (don't crank the peg hard, especially if it's slipping. I made that mistake the very first day i had my cello! D string snapped in half. I almost cried.) You should get a tuner, or use your ear next to an in-tune piano. The longer you play the cello, you'll be able to identify a perfect fifth by sound, and it will be easier to tune. You simply tune the A string, then play the A and D together and tune accordingly to what a fifth sounds like, but for now, don't worry about that.
If your pegs ever slip, which they will inevitably do eventually, Paul Tseng here at the ICS gave me a suggestion which has helped tremendously. When you put a string on the cello, guide the part of the string that is winding around the peg with your finger, and push it toward the sides, or walls, of the pegbox. It really does help keep your pegs from slipping. Someone else can probably explain this better.

As for intonation, considering my own isn't that great I can't help you much. (Only been playing for a year and a half) Your intonation will improve over time. It takes a while. For extended position, you could try this though: There's a lovely little chromatic excercise that could probably help. Play an F# on the D string (1st position, 3rd finger), then F, then E, then extend your first finger to the D#, then open D, then go back again. F#, F, E, D#, D, D#, E, F, F#. Do it without moving your hand out of first position. To check that, play the D#, then put down your second finger. It should still be on F. (You can use a piano or a chromatic tuner to make sure your hand is still in the right place.) You can do this with all the other strings. For the A string it will be C#, C, B, A#, A, A#, B, C, C#. Again checking to be sure that when your first finger is on A# you can still play a C without moving your hand, etc. I'm sure other people could give you better excercises.

Aaron

ashley
Registered User
Posts: 10
(7/7/01 7:18:05 pm)
Reply
Re: intonation
Hello Spookyho!
Here are a few tips to help you with your intonation. Of course, your teacher probably knows best how to help you, but I'll try to give you a few basic tips :) :

1.Singing is a wonderful way to help yourself with intonation. Typically, if you can sing something, you can play it on the cello.

2.Pay attention to the intervals you're playing and think about what position you're in if you're doing a lot of shifting. (This ties into the "singing" theory; if you can sing the interval, you can play it)

3.As far as tuning your cello, the thing you want to listen for as you tune is the perfect fifth (as you probably already know!). Here's how it works. We start by tuning the A, then the D is tuned to the A (play the strings together), the G to the D, etc. You maybe already know all this, but as you're tuning the fifth listen for the "beats." If you listen for the right thing, you'll hear a sort of wobble "in between" the interval. The string is tuned perfectly when there are no more "wobbles." Do you have fine tuners? Because it might be helpful to just practice tuning. Start by tuning the lower string really flat, then just turn the fine tuner and work your way up (while playing the two strings together with your bow, and tuning with the left hand), just listening to the changing pitch. You might even want to go a little sharp (the wobbles will come back if you go sharp). Then bring it all the way down again -- really flat. ...Oh, one thing, only do that little exercise if you have fine tuners. You don't want to use the pegs to go really sharp. You may go too sharp and break the string. I'm sorry I can't explain this any better.......

4.One last thing: you must constantly LISTEN. That's the key for intonation. Always be listening. If you do that you're sure to improve.

I'm sure you're on the right track. Just keep working hard! And good luck these next couple of weeks without lessons! I know from experience how hard it is!!! :\

Edited by: ashley at: 7/7/01 7:22:17 pm
Next Topic >>

Add Reply

Replies
Higher up my intonation? Spookyho  7/7/01 10:37:00 am
    Re: intonation ashley 7/7/01 7:18:05 pm
    Re: Higher up my intonation? AaronReeves 7/7/01 4:34:37 pm



Email This To a Friend Email This To a Friend
Topic Control Image Topic Commands (Moderator only)
Subscribe Click to receive email notification of replies
jump to:

- Internet Cello Society Forums - Young Cellists - Internet Cello Society -



Powered By ezboard® Ver. 6.3 b1
Copyright ©1999-2001 ezboard, Inc.