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Ellen G 
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(6/19/01 9:38:14 am)
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The rest of the world
A silly post, I'm sorry, but occasionally we are forced to deal with people who are TOTALLY oblivious to anything music related. Such was the case yesterday when I went to have some music spiral bound. I like Henle editions, but how any pianist is supposed to keep that mammoth Beethoven part open with its original binding is beyond me. Anyway, I went in with a piano part, and some quartets. They handed me back two volumes. The piano part, and all four quartet parts nicely bound into one book. Me trying to explain to him that I had brought in four separately-bound booklets and needed back four separately-bound booklets and him telling me, "I don't know anything about music" was ALMOST funny. Actually, it was pathetic and I will not repeat the dialogue which I am pretty sure has made me an unpopular character at my local Kinko's. I also tried to get a protective covering on the parts but was told they only haver 8-1/2 x 11. At which point I suggested that there must be some card stock somewhere that could be cut to size....I really wanted this rather expensive and heavily-used music to be protected. I may as well have been trying to discuss quantum mechanics with him. Bad example, *I* can't discuss quantum mechanics. But at least I know it EXISTS. I keep trying to remind myself if I walked into a garage and some guy asked me for a specific tool or wrench, I would be equally lost. I guess I just thought music was more universal. I lead a sheltered life.

Edited by: Ellen G  at: 6/19/01 9:41:53 am
ruthann
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(6/19/01 10:07:37 am)
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You aren't the one with the sheltered life. And your exchange with the Kinko's employee probably had more to do with him not wanting to hear anything you had to say than actual ignorance. Gee, does that make you feel better? I've noticed that same attitude in low paid service workers from time to time. Not all, mind you, just some. It's that "they aren't paying me much, I'm not doing much" attitude. Yuck.

cello_suttonr@hotmail.com

Ernie
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(6/19/01 12:52:06 pm)
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Re: The rest of the world
Ellen, you didn't make it clear whether they ever re-bound those four string parts separately. I hope it could be done without damaging the music.

Ellen G 
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(6/19/01 1:06:22 pm)
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Happy Ending
Yes, I had them redone into the four proper volumes. I lament the use of the card stock for covers, but it's better than the plain ol' paper. I'll find the acrylic sheets I want elsewhere and take them with me next time. Building a better mousetrap, as it were.

Ponticello 
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(6/20/01 1:36:52 am)
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The weakest Link
Did anyone see the Weakest link on Sunday? Talk about musically oblivious
Question: What composer's 1812 overture was actually composed in 1818?
The guy's answer: William Tell

Even my mom who is pretty unlearned about music laughed at that one, but not as hard as me.
That guy lasted waaaay to far in the game, IMHO

Bob
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(6/20/01 7:01:17 am)
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Was the laughter at the stupidity of the answer or the stupidity of the question? (Tchaikovsky was born in 1840)

jjlochlomond
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(6/20/01 7:56:46 am)
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re: weakest link
The 1812 was written in 1880 -- which sounds an awful lot like 1818, so I imagine the question actually was "which composer's 1812 Overture was actually written in 1880" and the host just didn't enunciate clearly enough.

So... if the home viewer thought the host said "1818," is it possible the contestant actually knew Tchaikovsky wasn't born until 1840 and therefore figured the question must refer to the very obscure 1812 Overture written by the even more obscure composer William Tell? ;-)

Ponticello 
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(6/20/01 8:43:56 am)
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Re: re: weakest link--clarification
The host most likely said 1880 and I standing about 25 feet away from the tv misheard

jdacheetah
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(6/20/01 9:13:03 am)
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Re: The rest of the world
Low paid at Kinko's? No not really, they get paid quite well for what they do. It's hard to get on and you constantly have to train on new machines, attend color theory and design classes... I know because I used to be a supervisor there.

It's a drag that you had a bad customer service experience. :( It's important to let people know exactly what you need done when binding books. Just be glad they didn't bind it at the top.

Daniel Ortbals 
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(6/20/01 11:54:22 am)
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Re: The rest of the world
Yes, there are plenty of people in the world who are "totally oblivious" to music and things related to it. Obviously, it'd be great to live in a world where EVERYONE loved and appreciated music, but that's just not the case. Some people don't have access to it, others don't have time for it, and others just can't understand it. We cannot fault people for what they do not know.

I know this comparison has been made a trillion times, but it's exactly the same thing as a physicist coming up to you with a series of diagrams, asking you to bind them as they ("obviously") should match up, and then getting mad at you for doing it incorrectly. Yes, to him, it's completely obvious, but not to you.

No, not EVERYONE knows that Tchaikovsky wrote the 1812 overture; at least the contestant guessed a name somewhat connected to music ;) . As far as The Weakest Link is concerned, usually the best players get voted off because the weaker players don't want to play against them in the final round. It's simply a result of the format of the game.

Dan O

RebeccaCello
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(6/22/01 4:31:47 pm)
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Re: The weakest Link
I'm sorry we've inflicted Anne Robinson upon you. Still maybe you deserve it for killing John Lennon.

AaronReeves
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(6/23/01 1:56:14 pm)
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I come accross musically illiterate people all the time. Must be a result of living in Oklahoma, where "culture" refers to rodeos and barrel-racing, and "fine cuisine" is baby-back ribs.

Aaron

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The rest of the world Ellen G  6/19/01 9:38:14 am
    Re: The rest of the world AaronReeves 6/23/01 1:56:14 pm
    Re: The rest of the world Daniel Ortbals  6/20/01 11:54:22 am
    Re: The rest of the world jdacheetah 6/20/01 9:13:03 am
    re: weakest link jjlochlomond 6/20/01 7:56:46 am
       Re: re: weakest link--clarification Ponticello  6/20/01 8:43:56 am
    Re: The rest of the world Ernie 6/19/01 12:52:06 pm
       Happy Ending Ellen G  6/19/01 1:06:22 pm
          The weakest Link Ponticello  6/20/01 1:36:52 am
             Re: The weakest Link RebeccaCello 6/22/01 4:31:47 pm
             Re: The weakest Link Bob 6/20/01 7:01:17 am
    Re: The rest of the world ruthann 6/19/01 10:07:37 am



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