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Andrew Victor
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(7/10/01 11:50:28 am)
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New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product)
Last week I received the following e-mail from David Bice of New Harmony:

Hi Andy,
Thought I'd let you know that my wolf note suppressors are now being shipped. They are ultra simple with no rubber liner, no thumb screw, or lock nut to loosen and rattle. You simply loosen the string, put the string in the (slightly curved - which is why you have to loosen the string [Andy's notation]) grove of the wolf note suppressor, bring the string back up to pitch, and then move the wolf note suppressor to the best location to suppress the wolf. Although more time and experience are needed, they seem
to be quite effective. This may be due to a design that eliminates the need for a rubber liner. In addition, I think they have less detrimental effect on the sound of the string they are attached to, maybe because there is a direct contract between the string and the brass of the wolf note
suppressor. They will fit both the C and G strings. I presently sell 7, 9, 11, and 13 gm weights so the lightest suppressor can be used for a given cello. Because they seem quite effective, I will have 5 gm suppressors available in a couple of weeks. The retail price is $16.00 each.

Please let me know if you would like to see one. I'd appreciate any comments you might have. I keep thinking the more input I get, the better
quality product I can produce.

Best wishes,
David


I ordered one and installed it this morning (on my Jay-Haide cello).
This really is a superior product.
It is easy to install.
It is easy to adjust.
It is attractive enought to be a sculpture.
It preserves or even enhances the tone of the cello.
Most important, it "traps" the wolf and allows one to move it very precisely away from interfering with playing and the sound of the cello.

I ordered a 9 gram suppressor, because it is about the same mass as my previous brass/rubber suppressors. There is really no comparison in both the effectiveness of the two types or the precision of eliminating the wolf. With the New Harmony suppressor I can actually track the wolf moving to different neighboring notes until it disappears (or hides between notes). The response of the lower strings seems to be much better than it had been with the other suppressor(s). After installing this wolf suppresor the upper half of my C string is quite playable and "tonefull," and in that respect equal or even superior to some pretty pricy cellos I have tried.

I mount it on the C string afterlength, as I have other suppressors for about 4 years. I have found this more effective than on the G string and it doesn't get in the way of using a two-hole Tourte mute.

I intend to get two more to use on my other cellos as well.

Andy



Edited by: Andrew Victor at: 7/10/01 12:13:00 pm
Todd French 
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(7/10/01 12:12:37 pm)
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Re: New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product)
Andy,

While I haven't had the opportunity yet to try the wolf eliminators (neither of my cellos has a wolf, oddly enough) I can concur with your opinion as to their beauty and simplistic design. I enclosed a photo with this message - hopefully it will turn out.

I plan on testing these out quite a bit on various cello lines within the coming weeks, so my comments might be found on this board as well...

Here's the photo:

http://www.stringworks.com/images/wolfeliminators.jpg

Edited by: Todd French  at: 7/10/01 12:13:18 pm
Tracie Price 
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(7/12/01 11:51:39 pm)
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Re: New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product)
This really isn't Tracie, I'm just using her computer. It's Bobbie. I also have tried Dave's wolf suppressors and I like them a lot. I haven't quite decided which is the best size, but the ease of adjustment and effectiveness is excellent. I think I am going to purchase two, of different weights, as my wolf gets worse at certain times of the year. These are so easy to adjust and move and replace that they easily allow for changing conditions.

I also just installed a Dave Bice endpin and endpin fitting, and I'm also extremely pleased with that.

Bobbie Mayer

Tracie Price 
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(7/14/01 11:48:03 pm)
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I'm me now
They really are beautiful little things, I have to say. I don't have much of a wolf either though, so I don't need one, but was experimenting with them a little. Do you really need to loosen the string to put them on? The one I was playing with I just popped on there without any loosening. Is that bad?

Sorefingers
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(7/15/01 1:49:49 am)
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Re: New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product)
I tried them as well - LOVED IT !!!

I replaced a 7g or 9g weight "old fashioned" brass/rubber & screw suppressor - not sure, don't have an accurate scale here with the New Harmony suppressor. I was pleasantly surprised at the results. Not only was the wolf ELIMINATED, but the cello's voice began projecting like never before - the entire cello body was vibrating - I could feel it through my ample padding - darn KK's !

I've experimented with two - I believe they're 7g & 11g (not marked). The 7g is exactly what I need for "regular" orchestral work. The 11g is just what I need right now for some special work I'm doing in Trio work and a Chamber group - helps to "tone down"/mellow, take the "edge" off my cello - I blend in better with the smaller group. I know that's not the original purpose, but it does exactly what I need.

The esthestics are pleasing as well - they look like mini sculptures. I have entertained myself during long measures of rests by admiring them. Thank You David Bice !!! You've covered all the bases. LOL !!!

Gina

Edited by: Sorefingers at: 7/15/01 1:53:22 am
MaryK 
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(7/15/01 12:02:32 pm)
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What's their price??? (NT)
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Bobbie
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(7/15/01 6:51:34 pm)
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Re: I'm me now
I just popped one on, too, and it didn't seem to cause any kind of problem. I'll ask Dave and let you all know.

JanJan2
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(7/16/01 6:52:45 am)
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Where are these available? (NT)
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Janet

Bobbie
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(7/16/01 10:17:15 am)
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Re: Where are these available? (NT)
Ellen has them at http://www.cellos2go.com/ , and I think you can get them directly from Dave at http://www.newharmonymusic.com/ as well.

Bobbie
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(7/16/01 10:12:46 pm)
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Installing
David Bice says that you may have to loosen the string but that if they do just pop on as they evidently do on some of the thinner strings he didn't think it would hurt the string. He himself loosens the strings to put them on, but says they can be adjusted while the strings are at pitch.

Bobbie

MCopeland
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(7/20/01 8:20:38 pm)
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Re:New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product)
Whoopee ! Got my selection of the New Harmony wolf suppressors and started experimenting. So far I have the 13 gram one on my C string, the 11 gram one on my G string, and .... the 7 gram one, on my *D* string. My cello doesn't have much of a wolf never did - but these wolf suppressors really increase the projection and vibration on all of the strings. I have no idea why these things work but I know what I'm hearing and it is amazing. Take'm off the string and I lose a lot of volume.

The Bice carbon fiber stake is getting put on by my luthier tomorrow, can't wait !!

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New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product) Andrew Victor 7/10/01 11:50:28 am
    Re:New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product) MCopeland 7/20/01 8:20:38 pm
    Where are these available? (NT) JanJan2 7/16/01 6:52:45 am
       Re: Where are these available? (NT) Bobbie 7/16/01 10:17:15 am
    What's their price??? (NT) MaryK  7/15/01 12:02:32 pm
    Re: New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product) Sorefingers 7/15/01 1:49:49 am
    Re: New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product) Todd French  7/10/01 12:12:37 pm
       Re: New Harmony wolf note suppressor (New product) Tracie Price  7/12/01 11:51:39 pm
          I'm me now Tracie Price  7/14/01 11:48:03 pm
             Re: I'm me now Bobbie 7/15/01 6:51:34 pm
                Installing Bobbie 7/16/01 10:12:46 pm



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