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cellissima2
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(7/26/01 4:00:52 pm)
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Vargas Cello Quartets: what are they and how can I get them?
I've heard a few references on this board to Vargas cello quartet arrangements. Can somebody describe these to me and tell me where they are available? I play in a cello quartet and we are searching for additional repertoire, especially classical. We have some of the Kunzelmann collections (jazz, tango, and ragtime) but we're putting together a concert and need some meat to go with the lighter pieces. Would Vargas fit the bill? Any other suggestions?

Ellen G 
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(7/26/01 4:29:21 pm)
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Musicelli website
hometown.aol.com/vcello1/index.html


This is where to see the listing, but I recommend talking to someone who is familiar with them, has played them. The level of difficulty varies among the parts. I ordered several of them and we're playing a few currently. My fear of manuscript and difficulty has abated as we've been working through. We're already taking on a new one as our confidence builds.

A bunch of people on the board have played them. Put out any kind of food post and D. Sanders will respond. When you have his attention, ask him about the Vargas. (Sorry, David. It's my way of getting even for all the money you cost me in URL enticements.) E

cellissima2
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(7/26/01 5:04:02 pm)
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KRISPY KREME DOUGHNUTS!!!
Maybe that will get David's attention...

Thanks, Ellen! What a great source! I certainly can't purchase all of the music on the website, so I'd really appreciate input and recommendations on specific pieces from others who have played the Varga arrangements. Also, just how advanced are the pieces in the "Tenor Clef Dwellers" Collection?

zambocello
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(7/26/01 5:35:46 pm)
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Re: Vargas Cello Quartets: what are they and how can I get them?
I think you can order things directly from Varga's company, Musicelli, plus Shar now distributes some of his arrangements.

I think they are quite good. The first cello part is sometimes quite demanding in his arrangements, (he was writing for himself!) but one of the virtues of his arranging is that he passes interesting material around to all the parts. Unless he's been having them reprinted, most of the arrangements are in a pretty neat (Varga's own hand copy) manuscript.

I played a bunch of these with him when he was cello professor at U of Houston. I remember some of his favorites were the Bach Chaconne, Vivaldi Concerto Grosso, CPE Bach Concerto, an excerpt from Tristan, Claire de Lune, etc, etc, on and on........ He made literally 100s of arrangements.

ruthann 
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(7/26/01 5:37:35 pm)
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Re: Vargas Cello Quartets: what are they and how can I get them?
I've got 3 or 4 of them, purchased from Shar, no doubt. I could never get our cello quartet to work on them - too high, too hard, too lazy, pick your excuse. They aren't impossible, but they aren't easy either. You need a fairly proficient group. That being said, the arrangements are really lovely, well worth the effort.

cello_suttonr@hotmail.com

JVelsey
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(7/27/01 7:40:58 pm)
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How about the Colin Hampton Bach arrangements?
I've been trying to find a Hampton arrangement of the Sarabande from the 6th Bach cello suite. Seems it's out of print. Anyone know otherwise?
Jonathan

David Sanders 
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(7/28/01 1:20:46 am)
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Re: KRISPY KREME DOUGHNUTS!!!
I'm not sure if I should be insulted or proud. Maybe I could get a commission from KK.

The Varga arrangements are wonderful. I've played a number of them. My favorite is the Vivaldi Concerto Grosso, but it is quite difficult.

Good luck.

Anybody want to talk about Skyline Chili.

David Sanders 
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(7/28/01 1:22:38 am)
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So Ellen, did you ever get the Feuermann CD?
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Ellen G 
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(7/28/01 6:27:36 am)
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David
Said as a compliment, David. Your ability to take a computer chip post and turn it into a potato chip post is unequalled. It was a funny thread. It was also probably so long ago you don't remember it. Along about the time of "Nono's Nonette." I love the humor in this place.

I did get the Feuermann CD the same time Gary got vertigo. In fact it was my attempt at writing about it which led to the dizzy cellist post.

Thanks for the recommendation. The little flyer that came with it indicates more releases on the way. I'll start saving now for when you dangle the next URL in front of me.

Ellen G 
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(7/28/01 6:49:21 am)
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Level of difficulty
Barbara Hedlund can guide you if you call the Musicelli number. Some pieces are notoriously difficult, some more user friendly.

I wish I had not overreacted to the manuscript initially. When Monica decided to put the cello quartet together and handed each of us a part, it turned out to be not as daunting as I'd thought. Having heard the lovely blending of cellos, I would not hesitate to spend the time working through more.

Our group consists of a 1-2 yr student, I think a 4-yr, me, and then a former conservatory student who had a lengthy hiatus. The pieces are the Chopin Prelude, Bach Bouree and Sarabande from -- uh oh, I can't remember... -- and a Schubert piece. We all were so pleased with the results that we're going to look at the other ones I have here or order more to continue playing together. For two of the members, it was the first time they'd ever played in ensemble. We smiled all the way through because it just sounded soooooooo nice!

If you want to e-mail me I can give you more particulars on the ones I own, but as you can see, the list is enormous. It really may be more of a help to tell Barbara the skill of your players and let her point you in the right direction. E

Edited by: Ellen G  at: 7/28/01 6:54:07 am
cellissima2
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(7/28/01 3:37:15 pm)
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Re: Vargas Cello Quartets: what are they and how can I get them?
Thanks again, folks! I played this version of the Vivaldi Concerto Grosso back in college, and this was one of the pieces that I was hoping to find as I don't have the music - mission accomplished.

All of the members of my quartet are competent adult players. Most of us teach lessons and have performance degrees or equivalent. I agree with Ellen about the sound of celli playing in harmony - nothing better! I'll phone Barbara for some suggestions. I'm still open for more input from cello-chatters.

Ellen G 
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(7/29/01 7:51:54 pm)
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A Post from Barbara at Musicelli
Barbara is not finding EZ Board so easy to use the past two days, as it refuses to acknowledge her and her password. Herewith her post:


Barbara S. Hedlund
Cellist, Teacher, Arts Manager, Music Publisher,
Music Events Contractor
Tel/fax 217-384-0874, Cell Tel. 217-493-7168
vcello1@aol.com, cellomusicplus.com
505 Eliot Drive, Urbana, IL 61801 USA

Dear Cello Colleagues,
Thanks for your questions about our cello music editions. Laszlo Varga's
editions for solo cello and cello ensembles, as well as my editions in the
Virtuoso Obbligato Aria Collection, and Talia Schiff's new editions The Tenor
Clef Dwellers, can be found at www.cellomusicplus.com. You may also contact
me directly to place an order at vcello1@aol.com or tel. 217-384-0874 from
9am-9pm daily, CST.

I will be happy to answer your questions about the collections and their
suitability. I also own arrangements by Doug Moore, Jerry Kessler, & Rick
Mooney so I can assist with those as well. Various music stores can order
from our offices also, but for fastest, cheapest service, contact me
directly. Sorry but Shar Products does not carry our line.

Best regards,
Barbara S. Hedlund
MusiCelli Publications

musicelli 
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(7/31/01 10:03:26 pm)
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Publisher of Laszlo Varga Cello Quartets and many more
Dear Cello Colleagues,

Well, I finally got in to post a reply on Cello Chat after several frustrating days with EZ technical support. It seems that the EZ community changed my password and profile settings without telling me. Ellen Gunst was kind enough to help post this message earlier, but I can finally do it myself.

Thank you for your questions about our cello music editions. Laszlo Varga's editions for solo cello and cello ensembles, as well as my editions in the Virtuoso Obbligato Aria Collection, and Talia Schiff's new editions The Tenor Clef Dwellers, can be found at www.cellomusicplus.com. You may also contact me directly at vcello1@aol.com or tel. 217-384-0874 from 9am-9pm daily, CST.

I will be happy to answer your questions about the collections and their technical suitability. I also own arrangements by Doug Moore, Jerry Kessler, & Rick Mooney so I can assist with questions on those as well.

Various music stores in the US and Austria order from our offices. However, for fastest, cheapest service, contact me directly. Sorry, but Shar Products does not carry our line.

Best regards,
Barbara S. Hedlund
MusiCelli Publications
Urbana, IL 61801
vcello1@aol.com, tel/fax 217-384-0874 9am-9pm CST daily

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Vargas Cello Quartets: what are they and how can I get them? cellissima2 7/26/01 4:00:52 pm
    A Post from Barbara at Musicelli Ellen G  7/29/01 7:51:54 pm
       Publisher of Laszlo Varga Cello Quartets and many more musicelli  7/31/01 10:03:26 pm
    Re: Vargas Cello Quartets: what are they and how can I get them? cellissima2 7/28/01 3:37:15 pm
    Re: Vargas Cello Quartets: what are they and how can I get them? ruthann  7/26/01 5:37:35 pm
       How about the Colin Hampton Bach arrangements? JVelsey 7/27/01 7:40:58 pm
    Re: Vargas Cello Quartets: what are they and how can I get them? zambocello 7/26/01 5:35:46 pm
    Musicelli website Ellen G  7/26/01 4:29:21 pm
       So Ellen, did you ever get the Feuermann CD? David Sanders  7/28/01 1:22:38 am
       KRISPY KREME DOUGHNUTS!!! cellissima2 7/26/01 5:04:02 pm
          Level of difficulty Ellen G  7/28/01 6:49:21 am
          Re: KRISPY KREME DOUGHNUTS!!! David Sanders  7/28/01 1:20:46 am
             David Ellen G  7/28/01 6:27:36 am



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