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RebeccaCello
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(7/8/01 9:20:36 am)
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Repertoire??????
Hi, I was wondering what kind of repertoire students are expected to have covered proir to attending music college. Of course I'm not ready for that yet (and am too ill anyway), but I was curious.

Laura Wichers
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(7/8/01 12:47:10 pm)
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Re: Repertoire??????
Depends on the school and your level. In my experience, they would rather you only had a few extremely well-learned pieces in your repertoire than a bunch of halfway-decent pieces.

Bottom line: Practice. (There's a shocker.)


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zambocello
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(7/8/01 3:39:55 pm)
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Re: Repertoire??????
What college and conservatory professors are looking for is not repertoire or even current ability, but promise and potential.

RebeccaCello
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(7/8/01 4:16:54 pm)
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Promise?????????
How do they grasp a person's potential? What is it that they look for?.....musicality, great sightreading, perfect pitch etc.?
Is age an important factor (as it usually indicates how long a person has been playing)?

Laura Wichers
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(7/8/01 7:19:38 pm)
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Re: Promise?????????
Age usually doesn't matter.

They can "tell" whether you probably have potential. It's like the difference between listening to Gary Hoffman play something and your average high school cellist. The technique notwithstanding, there is just "something" about Hoffman that is unique. An innate musical sense.


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Daniel Ortbals 
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(7/8/01 11:23:20 pm)
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Re: Promise?????????
First of all, age doesn't indicate ANYthing about how long a person has been playing. A six year old could have been playing longer than someone twelve times their age.

As far as potential, it's things like openmindedness, adaptability, a passion for the instrument, dedication, and, of course, a pretty solid foundation in technique with definite room to expand and develop musicianship (and still more technique).

Teachers are professional players AND listeners, so don't worry about whether or not they'll see potenial. They'll know. They'll see it in your playing. If you go into an audition trying to play exactly how you THINK you SHOULD because it'll "impress" the teachers, then you don't belong there. Play how YOU play. That's all it is. If they don't like you, oh well. There will be another time and another teacher that WILL.

Repertoire shows nothing about your "ability." If I sat here and told you that I "learned" sixty pieces before I was in high school, what does that say? Nothing. First of all, one indicator of potential is the ability to recognize that there is no "LEARNED." It's always, I am LEARNING, no matter how many years you've been playing or how many times you've performed that piece.

In reality, let's just say that I've covered more ground the last three years at college than in all the other years put together because I've developed an open mind, and I've learned how TO LEARN.

This is really random, and windy, and twisted, and a bit off topic, but oh well. Sorry. Have fun.

Dan O

Lucy Clifford
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(7/10/01 5:31:09 am)
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Repertoire doesn't matter
Some schools do specify the 'approx.' level repertoire that they are aiming at, and a teacher should be able to guide the student towards learning something of approx. level.

However, in many, indeed, most cases, the students who audition for music school, even if they do have the Gary Hoffman 'it' factor, will be covered over by the fact that they have not had his experience, technical stores and general brilliance - they'll just be highschool musicians......

My main pointers, from my 'experience', would be:

-Learn what repertoire you do learn THOROUGHLY.
-Plan a balanced audition programme.
-Don't play lightweight showy stuff just to dazzle them with your technique.

-Make sure that you are aware of the history and structure of what you do play, and while you're at it, read about general background as well, think about the style of the music and how to demonstate it. If the panel do a 'viva voce' section in the audition they will be interested if it is clear to them that you take seriously all facets of music education, not just playing notes.

-Your committment to learning the repertoire that you perform, and being thrilled by learning about music will stand you in good stead, and panels recognise this.

The most thrilling day of my life was when there was a String Students meeting in my first week of college. All the String Faculty was there, and one of them said that every student was there because they had shown something special in their audition [repertoire, presentation, 'level' notwithstanding] and that was why we were there.

If you get turned down by a school, don't think that it's because you're a rubbish player, think about what you can improve and try again.

Like Daniel, I've gone ramblin'.


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Repertoire?????? RebeccaCello 7/8/01 9:20:36 am
    Repertoire doesn't matter Lucy Clifford 7/10/01 5:31:09 am
    Re: Repertoire?????? zambocello 7/8/01 3:39:55 pm
       Promise????????? RebeccaCello 7/8/01 4:16:54 pm
          Re: Promise????????? Daniel Ortbals  7/8/01 11:23:20 pm
          Re: Promise????????? Laura Wichers 7/8/01 7:19:38 pm
    Re: Repertoire?????? Laura Wichers 7/8/01 12:47:10 pm



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