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RemRem
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(8/2/01 9:42:12 am)
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Cello neck varnish
I'm almost done with getting rid of the old varnish of the cello neck I got for my e-cello. As the neck is obviously from a student cello (no luck with the Amati scroll :( ) I thought i could take the varnish off with some alkohol. But the alkohol only cleaned off the dirt and did nothing to the varnish. It seems that it's an acrylic (sp?) varnish so I had to melt it off. Anyway, here's my question: what kind of varnish is usually applied to the actual neck (that part that usually has the normal wood color)? Maybe no varnish at all?

CelloBass
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(8/2/01 5:38:40 pm)
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Re: Cello neck varnish
If you want to do it the professional way, like a luthier, do it as follows. First, you sand the old varnish and the wood if it is uneven. Use fine sandpaper. When the wood is absolutely even, do a final polish with the finest sandpaper you can get. The wood should shine slightly, almost like shined. Remove all wood dust carefully with a fine brush. Buy pure linseed oil, use a small cotton cloth and put a fine layer of linseed oil on the wood. Don't touch and let it dry for 2 days. After that, you apply a second layer of linseed oil, again 2 days drying. When the linseed oil has dryed, use again the finest sandpaper and shine the neck with very low pressure, so that almost no material comes of the neck. As you see, necks are actually not varnished, the wood is sealed and hardened by the oil. The advantage is that you can easily repeat this process whenever it is necessary, without having to sand the old varnish, and the neck keeps its grip even if your hands are a bit sweaty.

WARNING: As other oils used by luthiers, linseed oil on cloth tends to catch fire by itself after some minutes, without any ignition source. After usage put any cloth with linseed oil on it into a bucket of water.

Horst

Todd French 
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(8/3/01 2:05:12 pm)
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Re: Cello neck varnish
Let me add to what Horst has said - when you remove the neck varnish, you might want to be careful to make sure you don't remove the colored varnish that shades itself into the non-colored portions of the neck (there will be colored varnish at either end, including the whole neckblock area). If you do, it may look odd, and touching up varnish is very difficult.

RemRem
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(8/3/01 4:05:38 pm)
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Re: Neck varnish
Thanks a lot for the advise. It's actually for my e-cello and as this baby is supposed to be all black (except the neck) I took off all the varnish. BTW, it doesn't even have a whole neck block, that's why I got it really cheap. And don't worry about me handling all the chemicals, I'm a chemist and worked with stuff that was *really* nasty :)

CelloBass
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(8/3/01 4:37:28 pm)
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Re: Neck varnish
Remrem,

I bet there are some chemists who don't know about this special 'feature' of some luthery-oils - until they realize that their sleeves have just started a fire :) Even if you are an experienced chemist, don't use HF for your cello neck anyway :)

Horst

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Cello neck varnish RemRem 8/2/01 9:42:12 am
    Re: Cello neck varnish Todd French  8/3/01 2:05:12 pm
       Re: Neck varnish RemRem 8/3/01 4:05:38 pm
          Re: Neck varnish CelloBass 8/3/01 4:37:28 pm
    Re: Cello neck varnish CelloBass 8/2/01 5:38:40 pm



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