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Corrina Connor
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(7/6/01 6:46:02 pm)
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Mahler's 141st Birthday TODAY!
today is the birthday of the object of my obsession.......
The First Mahler Birthday of the New Millennium.

(7.7.01), sadly David, David, Janos and Gustav don't all share the same day

Tracie Price 
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(7/7/01 11:54:24 am)
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Hooray for Mahler!
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bridge 
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(7/7/01 2:11:09 pm)
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And if he starte playing cello today, he could post on CBN
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RebeccaCello
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(7/8/01 4:26:00 pm)
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He's hideous
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MsCheryl 
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(7/10/01 6:21:25 pm)
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Alright - that does it!
Boy, I was on your side for awhile, Rebecca, but dissing Mahler - that goes beyond the bounds! I guess it's one of those things you shouldn't judge until you sit in the middle of an orchestra and play his music - it's an experience not to be missed!

drcello
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(7/10/01 6:47:44 pm)
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The Greatest First Symphony ever written by any composer...
I think so, even compared with Brahms. What thinkest thou?

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David Sanders 
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(7/10/01 10:18:50 pm)
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Re: He's hideous
Is that referring to Mahler, or to someone on cello chat?

ekifri
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(7/10/01 10:59:31 pm)
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Re: He's hideous
I wouldn't say so, not that it matters :) , but his music is fantastic, awe-inspiring, sublime..... not to mention .... never mind- my dictionary seems closed for the evening....

of course there have been those who agree with you: (RD Darrell, Down Beat, Chicago, June 4 1952)

If you are perverse enough to endure over an hour of masochistic aural flagellation, here's your chance! This grandiose Mahler Symphony of a Thousand, with all it's elephantine forces, fatuous mysticism and screaming hysteria, adds up to a sublimely ridiculous minus-zero.

-eva

Edited by: ekifri at: 7/10/01 11:05:17 pm
RebeccaCello
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(7/11/01 4:45:06 am)
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Sorry
I guess you're right I'm not qualified to have an opinion on a composer unless I've played his music; I just don't like to listen to him.

Edited by: RebeccaCello at: 7/11/01 10:47:34 am
Steve Drake
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(7/11/01 12:34:17 pm)
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Re: Sorry
That's silly. It's ok to have opinions about music, whether you've played it or not.

It's considered good etiquette to refrain from voicing negative opinions unless they are being solicited. And having good reasons for ones negative opinions is usually called for. "Just don't like to listen" to Mahler doesn't count as a good reason - what don't you like in particular? Many things are acquired tastes - I read a study once that stated it takes on the average 8 exposures to something you don't like before you can form a decent opinion about it. For example - many people don't like sushi, but most who don't like it have never had it, or only had it once. Most people who have had it 8 times tend to learn to like it, as it's pretty good stuff actually, and if they still don't like it, at least they know why. Perhaps Mahler's music is similar to sushi for you.

Give the 4th symphony a good listen - if you approach it positively, you might find a lot that you like.

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BettyLou
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(7/11/01 1:28:36 pm)
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Yes you are sorry
Dear impetuous, spontaneous RebeccaCello,

"Hideous" is a pretty strong word to use against anyone dear. If you don't like the music, then say so. No problems here with strong opinions.

You often get into scrapes here by not being clear, and for someone who has acheived what you have, after only two years on the cello, I am surprised that you have trouble expressing yourself. I hope it's not the same when you play.

Give a listen to Ha Na Chang's rendition of "Silent Woods"; that's Dvorak, if you didn't already know. I think it's right up your alley, as she is a cello prodigy 20 years old I think, having reached the cusp of cello stardom so young. This will appeal to you fascination with quick-study musical genius.

By the way, I read an article in a London tabloid about a fetus that has mastered the "Rococo Variations"; is it true? What will they think of next?

with only the deepest, caring love,

BettyLou


MsCheryl 
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(7/11/01 3:18:15 pm)
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Oh God, here we go....
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Steve Drake
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(7/11/01 4:05:40 pm)
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Did you know my 141st birthday is tomorrow?
And you've never even heard any of my music!

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Kelzane
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(7/11/01 4:38:38 pm)
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Re: Mahler's 141st Birthday TODAY!
Has anyone seen "Bride of the Wind" yet. Its a film ostensibly about Alma and Gustav ( and Gustav Klimt and Walter Gropius too I am guessing based on the title) but I am wondering if anyone has seen it yet and can comment on it? I too adore Mahler (Yes, it is the greatest 1st symphony by a composer in my humble opinion, no, offense to Brahms, Berlioz or Shostakovich ). Not that it was really appreciated during his time. Anyway, my understanding is that "Bride of the Wind" is a new feature film about Alma Mahler so I worry about their depiction of Gustav M, but being the Mahler-ophile that I am I am sure that I will have to see this film no matter what its angle is. To Rebecca, I urge you to give Mahler another try? What other composers do you like? My suggestion is to try the adagietto from the 5th symphony It is, I think, my favorite piece of music ever. After listening to it a few hundred times it can still bring me to tears.

Thanks for letting me add my two cents to this.

MaryK 
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(7/11/01 5:21:14 pm)
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That isn't in dog years, is it??? <g> (nt)
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Corrina Connor
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(7/12/01 4:56:34 am)
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Gorgeous when he was 25,
or at least until he grew his beard.

Young lady, aka RebeccaCello, listen to any Mahler Symphony, properly, and you will be so moved as to feel transported and slightly sick with emotion.

I would advise that you started with maybe the 2nd Mvt of the 2nd Symphony, or 1st Symphony, then follow it up with the rest of the 2nd Symphony, then the rest of the First Symphony, then the Adagio from the 10th Symphony, then the Third Symphony. Then, if you have any sense, you'll be addicted, and the greatest moment of rapture in your life will be playing the opening of the 2nd Symphony.

RebeccaCello
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(7/12/01 5:15:39 am)
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Maybe
Maybe I'll give him a try. I love Beethoven, Mozart, Dvorak and Schumann (I've just started doing the adagio and allegro).
P.S. I saw some film a few years ago which I think was based upon Mahler, any ideas what it was called?

Dimitri Vee
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(7/12/01 7:35:30 am)
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film around Mahler's life

Could it have been Visconti's "Death in Venice" ?

Throughtout the film, the haunting Adagietto from
the Fifth Symphony provides the backdrop.

Twas after this that I became a Mahler believer too..

Also in "Year of living Dangerously" there is an
amazing scene to the sounds of one of Mahler's "Songs
of the Wayfarer".

try them

cheers
Dimitri




jjlochlomond
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(7/12/01 10:34:26 am)
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Bride of the Wind
I saw Roger Ebert & whatshisface review this a couple of weeks ago...I believe they both gave it thumbs down. The major gripe I remember them having was with the actors' performances; they said the woman who played Alma was so wooden & boring that neither of them could really believe that all these amazingly creative men would give her the time of day, let alone obsess over her. I'm still somewhat interested in seeing it, but will undoubtedly wait until it's out on video.

RebeccaCello
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(7/12/01 12:58:21 pm)
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Re: film around Mahler's life
Yes it was Death in Venice, thanks I couldn't remember what it was called.

ekifri
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(7/12/01 3:02:39 pm)
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Re: Gorgeous when he was 25,
Thanks Corrina,
Mahler 1 is my at work listening for today, thanks to your reminder.......
ahhhh...........Love this.
(and he wasn't bad looking either!)

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Mahler's 141st Birthday TODAY! Corrina Connor 7/6/01 6:46:02 pm
    Bride of the Wind jjlochlomond 7/12/01 10:34:26 am
    Re: Mahler's 141st Birthday TODAY! Kelzane 7/11/01 4:38:38 pm
    The Greatest First Symphony ever written by any composer... drcello 7/10/01 6:47:44 pm
    And if he starte playing cello today, he could post on CBN bridge  7/7/01 2:11:09 pm
       He's hideous RebeccaCello 7/8/01 4:26:00 pm
          Gorgeous when he was 25, Corrina Connor 7/12/01 4:56:34 am
             Re: Gorgeous when he was 25, ekifri 7/12/01 3:02:39 pm
                suggestion for Rebbecacello rocel 7/12/01 7:00:36 pm
                   Mahler Amelia  7/13/01 12:26:02 am
                      Re: Mahler Corrina Connor 7/13/01 2:34:04 am
             Maybe RebeccaCello 7/12/01 5:15:39 am
                film around Mahler's life Dimitri Vee 7/12/01 7:35:30 am
                   Re: film around Mahler's life RebeccaCello 7/12/01 12:58:21 pm
          Re: He's hideous ekifri 7/10/01 10:59:31 pm
             Sorry RebeccaCello 7/11/01 4:45:06 am
                Re: Sorry Steve Drake 7/11/01 12:34:17 pm
                   Yes you are sorry BettyLou 7/11/01 1:28:36 pm
                      Oh God, here we go.... MsCheryl  7/11/01 3:18:15 pm
                         Did you know my 141st birthday is tomorrow? Steve Drake 7/11/01 4:05:40 pm
                            That isn't in dog years, is it??? <g> (nt) MaryK  7/11/01 5:21:14 pm
          Re: He's hideous David Sanders  7/10/01 10:18:50 pm
          Alright - that does it! MsCheryl  7/10/01 6:21:25 pm
    Hooray for Mahler! Tracie Price  7/7/01 11:54:24 am



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